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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 22:27:10 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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@Crux_Invictus @BowsacNoodle @thefinn @zeke @Dagnar > It's not that tradition is of no value or that we should abandon anything that isn't just the Bible. It is that Holy Scripture is the standard by which all doctrine is measured.

I agree. Where problems arise, however, is when detailed historical specific Orthopraxes get simply written off as “unimportant” or “unBiblical”, simply because they aren’t specifically articulated enough in the Bible. Many, many such cases.
Baptism by Triple Immersion in the name of the Holy Trinity, for example (mentioned by Fr Josiah in the video). This practice is nearly universally abandoned within modern American Christianity (including, sadly, some who are “Orthodox” in name). The way this is removed is usually by asserting that it’s not specifically articulated in the Bible, and that it “cannot” be Salvationally Necessary - and may therefore be dispensed with.
This whole approach is entirely foreign to Orthodoxy - whether or not any specific Practice is “necessary for Salvation”. We see no valid basis for such reductionism, Scriptural or otherwise.
It might come across as a niggling detail; but on what basis is *this* judgment made? Churches split all the time over these details - it’s definitely not unimportant.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 06:34:39 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
- Kyonko802
@Kyonko802 I understand it‘s beside the point, but I can’t bring myself to believe that’s a real submersible. It just looks completely fake.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 00:23:46 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @doonxib @William_The_Dragonborn @quercus @brigrammer @vrilium Last I saw, BroNat is in Good Standing in the ROCOR. I think he has signed and dated letterhead from Abp. Kyrill of SF, from about a year ago. Did he get himself in trouble more recently, with his campaign ?

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 31-Aug-2024 00:23:45 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @doonxib @William_The_Dragonborn @quercus @brigrammer @vrilium Oh okay yeah, that was a thing from over a decade ago; he was subject to review, and he was ordered by the Archbishop to stop publishing. He immediately and unhesitatingly obeyed. During the review, the findings were so unanimously favorable, and his obedience so impressive, Met. Hilarion released a “correction” in 2016 and again in 2020, and more recently Abp Kyrill announced his Good Standing a year or so ago.
He’s 100% legit, unless his recent campaign went too far. I doubt it will.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Aug-2024 11:44:20 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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@WashedOutGundamPilot @Torbasanigger @BigTLarrity @ACL9000 @Largo @NitroDubs @placebo @stoner713 The Model A struck one of the finest balances in automotive history, and is a testament to something truly great that is uniquely and decidedly American back before it became wholly evil. And, poured babbitt bearings are one of the most incredible discoveries of all time 🍻

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Aug-2024 11:23:48 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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@Torbasanigger @BigTLarrity @ACL9000 @Largo @NitroDubs @WashedOutGundamPilot @placebo @stoner713 A cousin of mine inherited the ‘28 Model A. Got it all prettied up, runs like a champ. I guess grandma named it “Bertha”.
Not a big Ford guy, myself; but stuff made while he was still alive gets a pass in my book as it’s living archaeology.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Aug-2024 11:23:48 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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@Torbasanigger @placebo @BigTLarrity @ACL9000 @Largo @NitroDubs @WashedOutGundamPilot @stoner713 Back before they curved windshields. Niiiice
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:49:46 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay “True Orthodox” was actually the name given to us by the Soviet State, in a number of correspondences, dating back to the early-mid 1920s.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:49:45 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
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@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Officially we’re the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. In correspondences between Bishops the common shorthand is either the “Catholic Church” or the “Orthodox Church”, but “True Orthodox” has stuck in the wider parlance.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:49:43 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@Escoffier @James_Dixon @BadOptniks @patris @JohnYoungE @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Define “problematic” - even Scripture can become problematic; for example,

> I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent”
~ 1 Timothy 2:11-12

People lose their jobs over quotes like this, these days. It‘s obviously society that’s problematic, rather than Scripture; but the State doesn’t see it that way and that can pose some real problems.
This isn’t to mention the twisting of Scripture; certain passages are more prone to this, than others.
But is it not also thus with Holy Tradition? Why or why not ?

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:10 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @James_Dixon @somemightsay Hey that’s a good question; do Latins even do that, anymore ?
😏
I’ve got some cute stories about ours.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:06 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Our Lord is nigh-*scandalously* merciful, there‘s no honest denying it. I’ve long hoped beyond hope passages referring to “working out Salvation with fear and trembling” are essentially hyperbolic; justified by what’s at stake. But I’d really really rather not presume upon His Grace more than I already do.
We received a Traditional perspective regarding the appropriate response to heresies arising from within and without the Church, extending clear back to Apostolic times. While I do certainly hope the saving Grace spilled out by Our Lord overflows above and beyond the bounds of Our Communion, I don’t see any examples of Saints from the First Century onward taking a casual approach to conceptual or logical straying from The Faith-Once-Received. Otherwise, what sense do Ecumenical Councils even make? I don’t honestly think they’re just a bunch of meanie sticks-in-the-mud.
Since it’s the Faith that saves - because it’s Christ’s - I rather take my cues from them. Nothing personal, I hope that’s obvious.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:06 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay I *think* I technically understand what’s involved in the impulse to whittle everything down to the absolute bare minimum that‘s absolutely indisputably required to keep one from ending up in the fiery Gehenna at the end of their lives - based entirely upon whatever written evidence can be gleaned within a pared-down version of a set-of-Scriptures bafflingly sundered from the wider Tradition of the Communion that produced them.
I’d never dream of forcing one so wholly convinced this is the Right Thing to Do, to join said Communion.
But it’s apparent to me they’ve simply placed themselves upon the Throne of Universal Jurisdiction, instead of the Pope. Personally, I could never take myself that seriously.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:05 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Traditionally, the heresy specifically mentioned in Galatians is understood to be judaizing / legalism - which is the belief that the rites of the Old Covenant are necessary for Salvation.
This doesn’t relate to Church Councils - one of which is itself recorded in Acts, the First Council of Jerusalem, presided by St. James the brother of Our Lord. I’m sure you’d likely argue that’s different specifically because it’s Biblical. We’ve never had reason to make that distinction - since we’re the ones that did it in the first place.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:04 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay > counsels and extra documental texts are the heresy we were warned about in galatians

My point is to dispute this sentence. Clearly I don’t believe True Orthodoxy is heretical, and St. Paul clearly couldn’t have meant Church Councils in general are heretical.
If you meant that specific Councils are heretical, then you’d have to be in a position to make that determination, authoritatively. Anybody could just up and decide for themselves that “x, y and z” are heretical; that doesn’t automatically make it correct.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:03 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay From all I’ve heard, it comes across like you’ve decided any sort of Church Hierarchy, at all, is heresy - on the grounds that it’s “judaizing”. But I can’t believe that’s really your position - I must be missing something.

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:02 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay You’re *not* claiming to be the same Community ?
What possible reason would I have to take someone seriously - speaking authoritatively about what “heresy” is - from the Books *we* wrote ?

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:02 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay I am asking, point blank - why was the First Council of Jerusalem held in the first place ? If the Church is just sharing the Gospel, and forming communities around it - what was the point of the Council ?

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:02 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Then what was the purpose of the First Council in Jerusalem ? Why did they do it ? Why was it necessary ? Why wouldn’t all the believers everywhere just draw the same conclusions, on their own, Bible in hand ?

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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 23-Aug-2024 06:45:01 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️
@BadOptniks @James_Dixon @patris @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Why on earth would I take your claims about it seriously ? We read our Gospel in our own communites, and know what it means, because we wrote those books.

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