Notices by tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl), page 2

@ramin_hal9001@emacs.ch My whole point is that there is politics involved if you look for it.Then there is nothing we have left to discuss. There is no value in any kind of argument on this matter, as you will always look to make it political, regardless of the content. As such, your notion that something is political also brings no value to any discussion.

I asked you a couple questions about the politics of one of my projects, at this point I can only come to the conclusion you've ignored this purposefully, as it would be in opposition to your desired beliefs.

@visone@fosstodon.org @coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza I'm not native, sorry about that.That's ok!Bigotry, racism, etc. don't have contextBut they most definitely do have context. To take a very simple example, the word "nigger". It is used constantly in certain genres of music, but that does not make those artists immediately racist, does it? However, if used as an insult against another person, that would be racist. It uses the same word, but the context decides if it was racist or not.

@visone@fosstodon.org @coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza Those comments doesn't have various context, they are very clear. Your English skills are a bit low for me to comprehend easily, so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you arguing that context does not matter?I have my owns.Well this thread clearly showed that, however your opinion was incredibly skewed from what happened in reality, so perhaps it would be wise to rethink your position on just going by some screenshots and then coming to a very wrong conclusion.they banned themself from any societyNo, they quite literally did not do that. Some guy who behaved as was asked of him and even contributed useful code got smeared anyway and was banned by someone else who simply wanted to feel good on her little powertrip.

@visone@fosstodon.org @coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza just see the capturesWell, if that's all it takes to convince you someone should be feathered, tarred, and banned from the public, I sure am glad you are not in any way part of any team that has any weight anywhere. Basing your opinion solely on some out-of-context screenshots sounds like an absolutely horrible idea.doesn't make any senseThe ban indeed doesn't make any sense, this is why people are upset at Drew (for instigating it) and FDO (for executing it).

@visone@fosstodon.org @coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza Additionally, you're saying the CoC in #Hyprland is not being applied, so I assume you're using their proprietary #Discord community. In which case, can you provide concrete examples?

@visone@fosstodon.org @coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza But the FDO is more like "I have these rules and I insist that people follow them even outside my organisation, I will scour the Internet for anything you might've done wrong ever if I disagree with your politics in an effort to ban you"

Vaxry (rightly) seperated his #Hyprland community from his contributions to FDO, and he still got some overzealous hypocrite to come after him years later. It would be less insulting if Lyude at least followed those rules herself, but she just applies them to others when convenient for her powertripping desires.

Its important to note that Vaxry did not breach the rules of the organisation, the rules were simply misused out of context. This is, sadly, the standard for CoCs, and the main concern that opponents of CoCs have. It is sad that in all these years a CoC has still never made a positive impact on any community, ever.

@visone@fosstodon.org @coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza Okay, did you actually read Drew and Vaxry's blog, or just Drew's blog (or neither)?

@visone@fosstodon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza @coin@asimon.org What? Can you explain what you think happened in this situation, because it sounds like you have a very warped idea of it.

@visone@fosstodon.org @coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza Huh, that's strange. Vaxry's blog posts detail that the "victim" as you put it was misgendering people as well. So to go with your analogy, its more akin to "someone comes into the bar and he gets into a fight with one of the staff".

The "victim" does indeed complain about it, you're right about that one, though obviously in a very skewed way. Drew picks up on this and makes a slanderous, uninformed blog post which starts up a hate campaign against Vaxry.

Almost 2 years later someone with too much authority at FDO picks up on it, and misuses their authority to ban Vaxry over something that happened far outside the scope of FDO. You seem to think this is justified, while I would very strongly disagree.

Regarding your "nothing change[d]", something did change. Under the enormous pressure Drew put Vaxry under, he did eventually adopt a CoC even though he was originally against it.

So your analogy doesn't seem to quite fit the narrative. Hence I'm curious as to how you could've gotten that viewpoint if you did honestly read both sides of this story.

@coin@asimon.org @jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza Man, Drew's still upset at Vaxry? Last year he wrote about burning out, yet he keeps on doing his best to be involved in as much drama as he can, it makes little sense to me.

As for Vaxry being banned by #CoC misuse, that's kind of the entire goal of having a CoC. Never trust a project that has a CoC, and always assume bad faith from anyone pushing for it. A CoC has never improved any community in any situation, and it never will.

@jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza Did Drew have an Opinion™️ again?

@rms@mastodon.xyz Israel must allow Gaza food and water or else it would violate international lawIsrael has been violating international law for years, and nobody cares. In the past year Israel has taking the violations up several notches, even going intro straight genocide without trying to hide it, and all they got was praise and applause all over the world.

@lain@lain.com The next iteration will only support starting a browser, that will be your entire graphical context.

@shipp@mastodon.coffee I'm in channels with hundreds (and a few going in thousands) on #IRC, and our messages actually arrive near-instantly to the other people. No several seconds (sometimes minutes) of delay. A better, cleaner interface which is actually focused on the chat, rather than a plethora of useless gunk that I didn't ask for, and are just burning through bandwidth.

I use a chat platform to chat, and #Matrix keeps adding more things that simply don't improve the chat part of the whole platform. If Matrix actually performed well, many more of my "normie" friends wouldn't be so upset whenever they had to interact with it. Good thing the phone notifications for #Element users break so often, it keeps their blood pressure more stable.

Join a new room
Takes about 10 minutes before I can start talking#Matrix clearly is the modern way of chat. Time to give up on #IRC with its anti-user design of being instantly able to say anything to anyone.

@tadzik@social.tadzik.net I'd go for the last option, it's the most honest one. While recruiters are a pox upon society and we'd be better off without any of them existing, the person you're talking with is in the end a real person, and they deserve at least some dignity.

@coolboymew@shitposter.clubRegister the cable with our appWhat in the fuck

@taylan@pl.tkammer.de @fosstodon@fosstodon.org It's sad to see, but definitely not unexpected. I don't feel the values of free software are highly regarded on Fosstodon, and the admins have a clear desire to strongly influence people in favour of their political viewpoints from what I can tell.

Good thing there are more instances on the Fediverse, and making another one is quite simple! If only more people would support the idea of a well-distributed Fediverse, bad admins would have a lot less power to abuse those who hold different opinions.

@coin@asimon.org @mobiuscog@fosstodon.org @dcz@fosstodon.org @fosstodon@fosstodon.org Even if you did want to care for other countries, their CoC specifies you're not allowed to post opinions Fosstodon disagress with on other platforms if you happen to have a Fosstodon account.

This is not about Fosstodon's federation policies or what happens on their platform. It's a childish attempt at totalitarian control. They desire a certain worldview, and will use any possible avenue they have at their disposal to force you into compliance.

This is the usual motive behind CoCs, so I can't say I'm surprised.

@mobiuscog@fosstodon.org @dcz@fosstodon.org @fosstodon@fosstodon.org They are not liable for actions taken by other people on other platforms, it's silly to try and defend this kind of idiocy with such a non-reason.