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FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:23:40 JST FourOh-LLC

I focus on NAS so much I forgot about the retards on shitpoast. What a bunch of losers.

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- † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:23:36 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:
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  @amerika @viber @FourOh-LLC >not much organic interaction
  You sir have it backwards
  
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- SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction (viber@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:23:37 JST SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
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  @FourOh-LLC
  Nice speech!
  Yeah, for one, I have no clue how to operate a node, so that's not going to work for me.
  I've joined other servers, and it is a bunch of people posting into the ether, as if we are listening, yet no one is responding, liking or boosting. Boring as fuxk.
  And the federated timeline is filthy, and requires a heavy blocking to clean up.
  To my original point, there seems to be a reason your timeline is filled with NAS posts and responses.
  
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- ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:23:37 JST ≠
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  - SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
  @viber @FourOh-LLC
  
  You nailed the problem with the Fediverse: lots of people spewing updates, not much organic interaction.
  
  We see why the algos came about...
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:23:38 JST FourOh-LLC
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  - SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
  Not to mention the main concern with NAS - the fact that its users are there to seek and enforce conformity. All I need to do is criticize NAS and you will see the "community" rising up to "defend it", to defend their "free speech platform".
  
  The fact that the fiercest ones have no stake in NAS, invested nothing to sustain NAS, eludes most casual observers.
  
  This cannot be any other way, all large nodes end up at the same point where the majority of "community members" are opportunists and abusers.
  
  They should be kicked back and told to stay on Twitter, Facebook, Gab, Truth Social, WhatsApp, Reddit, Telegram, Snapchat, TikTok, WeChat, Instagram, Pinterest, LinkedIn, Quora, Discord, Tumblr, Flickr, and dozens more.
  
  The Fediverse should be proudly operated by single-user nodes.
  
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- SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction (viber@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:23:39 JST SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
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  @FourOh-LLC
  You do seem to focus on NAS!
  Looking at your timeline, it seems mostly NAS folks you follow and boost.
  
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- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:26:13 JST 0
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  @dcc @amerika @viber @FourOh-LLC
  
  "But nobody is in my DMs."
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:44:38 JST FourOh-LLC
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  No, you are not getting it.
  
  Huge nodes like NAS has nowhere to go but bust. Owner-operated networks like mine outlive them and outperform all of them. Especially when you are considering a REAL community like a condo association the nodes have a chance to last human generations.
  
  Purpose-built networks sustain far longer than general, aimless nodes.
  
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- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:44:39 JST 0
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  @viber @amerika @dcc @FourOh-LLC
  
  I worry about network traffic in terms of what a node might need to handle, sure, but unless there's something functionally wrong I am not trying to diagnose social maladies like a lack of specific types of interaction.
  
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- SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction (viber@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:44:39 JST SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
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  @0
  I see, if I'm getting the jist, there's the people who care about the tech, and then people like me who care about content and experience.
  In my case exclusively, because I don't do tech.
  I'm looking for Facebook or Twitter without spying and tracking.
  @amerika @dcc @FourOh-LLC
  
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- SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction (viber@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:44:40 JST SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
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  @0
  Like when people jump in it gets impossible to understand...
  BUT I think a general rule is that if your post gets crickets, it missed the mark. Do better next time.
  @amerika @dcc @FourOh-LLC
  
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- ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:45:11 JST ≠
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  @FourOh-LLC @dcc @0 @viber
  
  I like the idea of aiming for no link rot forever.
  
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- † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:52:40 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @0 @viber >NAS has no value,
  You don't own a instance with people so ofc you think this.
  
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- SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction (viber@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:52:41 JST SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
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  @FourOh-LLC
  Not getting it? I guess. Except that reality is fluid.
  And obviously NAS has value because it exists and is "huge".
  Your condo node also has value.
  @amerika @dcc @0
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:52:41 JST FourOh-LLC
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  NAS has no value, and its burning a hole in the admin's pocketses.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 08:57:41 JST Hoss Delgado
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  How are NAS boomers of all people living rent free in this retard's head?
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:46:59 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @Hoss
  Where does "voting power" come into play?
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:00 JST FourOh-LLC
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  It says in 3007 counties in all 50 states you need to create an owner-operated network using the Fediverse and Zot/Zap so you do not need to block anyone!
  
  Are you really this thick?!
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:01 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @Hoss
  what?
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:02 JST FourOh-LLC
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  It means what it says, exactly. Today I would write that if you cannot reach the decision makers from the bottom, your organization is TOO BIG.
  
  Remember when the Walkaway campaign was booted from Facebook, and Straka was sobbing like an idiot asking "who could this happen?!"
  
  There is the concept of "six degree of separation", but in national-sized organizations you cannot reach the decision makers by a hundred-degree of separation. I know many people tried to warn WALKAWAY, they were literarly told to move from the platform of their political opponent! I did what I always do, try to reach them with introducing the Fedi.
  
  That's what you are looking at, and early realization of a now crystal clear concept.
  
  I hassle, I try, I take chances. I learn by doing. I did nothing wrong with that, or with anything else you might hang on hoping you can take it out of context and use it against me.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:03 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @Hoss
  > I do not even mention voting
  :pepe_lmao: what do you call this then, hmm? :glowie:
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:04 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @Hoss
  No I'm NOT a political activist, I'm just a CITIZEN!
  Now send me your Government ID so I can vouch for you.
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:04 JST FourOh-LLC
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  All I wrote was you are an activist. Political, intellectual, pacifist or pan-tis, pan-tat whatever. You "represent the tis and tat of other people", an activist.
  
  I on the other hand just doing my civic duty, reminding people that taking control back begins at home, with as little as running their own Fediverse nodes. I do not even mention voting - there are more qualified people who should do that.
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:05 JST FourOh-LLC
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  Also because you are an activist. You could not function differently if you wanted to.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:06 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC I understand the argument; I follow what's happening to Josh Moon.
  But I won't live my life in fear of troons and thugs of the State, and I don't think other people should either.
  I get the argument, and I don't fault anyone for making a different decision, but I do think things would be different (better) if people didn't feel that they HAD to be anonymous in order to say what they want.
  Just a difference in philosophy.
  
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- dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:07 JST dobó istván
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  @eriner @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC No one is afraid of the troon.
  They only worry about the legally immune paramilitary group using the troon as a meat shield.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:07 JST Hoss Delgado
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  I considered for a moment whether I should clarify that he's taking me too literally, but I don't think it would've made much of a difference.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:08 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC
  I ain't afraid of no troon.
  Also, why hasn't anyone overdubbed this as "Troonbusters" yet?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe93CLbHjxQ
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:09 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC
  My point is that no matter how you post on the Internet, the watchers are watching. They know who you are. A pseudonym and Tor don't protect you.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:09 JST Hoss Delgado
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  Under anarchotyranny it's not direct retribution from the system that you should be fearing, it's the insane antifa trannies that act with plausible deniability on behalf of the ruling class that you should really be worried about.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:10 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj
  @Hoss
  > The Internet is supposed to be anonymous
  Disagree. Nothing on the Internet is anonymous. IMO, embrace that shit.
  @FourOh-LLC
  > Shitheads like Matt take any piece of information they have and use it against people.
  You dumb bitch, I literally posted your own words.
  If you don't want people to point out that you're either a foreign agent, or a cringe retard, then don't be a glowie cringe retard.
  Blame your mother, not me.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:10 JST Hoss Delgado
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  >Nothing on the Internet is anonymous. IMO, embrace that shit.
  You're so right bro, Thomas Paine should've published Common Sense under his real name and got beheaded because that would've been fucking based and principlepilled.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:11 JST Hoss Delgado
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  The Internet is supposed to be anonymous, it's the realidentityfags who ruined it.
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:12 JST FourOh-LLC
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  What Matt was talking about was my efforts to bring people to the fedi, by giving them a purpose. The 50-state network is true, once I tried to create a 50-nodes network form DNS and up, it was a humangous effort and quite expensive.
  
  This has evolved into TheRON, or the Residential Owner-operated Network. Its still evolving.
  
  Shitheads like Matt take any piece of information they have and use it against people. That is why everyone is hiding behind anonymous, terrified of doxxing.
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:13 JST FourOh-LLC
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  This is what happens when large nodes on the fedi, with hundreds of users overpower the lone owner-operator. There is simply no other outcome, this is the only result of large nodes.
  
  The point is not that you are right or wrong, the point is that it will happen regardless.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:14 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC
  You don't understand, he just wants his AmericaFirst 50 states civil disobedience network and wants people to send him their Government IDs, he's not a political activist he's just a citizen rEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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- SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction (viber@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:14 JST SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
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  @eriner
  Wft did I get myself into.
  I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @dj @FourOh-LLC
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:15 JST Hoss Delgado
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  Some guy seething about NAS for some reason. He was also trust the plan posting in my mentions the other day lol.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:16 JST Hoss Delgado
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  @istvan is the only NAS boomer I regularly interact with, but I see their users in my feed occasionally.
  
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- dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:16 JST dobó istván
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  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC What retarded faggotry have I been tagged into?
  
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- DJ :debian: :coolcat: :colombia: (dj@parcero.bond)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 20:47:17 JST DJ :debian: :coolcat: :colombia:
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  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @viber @FourOh-LLC
  NAS has been showing a lot of character lately, maybe it's the streaks of grey in my beard talking but most of them are pretty based. It shows with how hard they cause faggots to ree and whine like the hater in this thread.
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 02:53:50 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @viber
  You one mind readin' son bitch, Sandor.
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 02:53:51 JST FourOh-LLC
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  The Fediverse is simply not designed for half the stuff Matt and his crew is doing. OK, lets take a step back and refactor.
  
  How many times did NAS promote owner-operator status? I mean I made a thousand statement over the years about the Fediverse depending on owner-operators installing and using the software.. not just one of two mega-sized nodes but thousands of individuals.
  
  Then what about all the "fallout" that keeps happening between all the crew, they lost noagenda and they will lose noauthority.
  
  Let me spare you more of the same. I have a purpose here, and part of it is to remind you of facts and details NAS will never mention to you.
  
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- SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction (viber@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 02:53:52 JST SirViberoftheGreatOverreaction
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  @FourOh-LLC
  Eriner seems to sort of like doing it.
  If not, as has nearly happened more than I can know of, then its gone.
  You see, I've learned that most the people on NAS actually have real lives and families, and expertise in all sorts if things.
  I burn my online presences regularly, and can handle it happening again. Might be nice actually.
  @amerika @dcc @0
  
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- Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 02:57:33 JST Matt Hamilton
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @viber
  > what is going to happen to the Fediverse when only ActivityPub and Mastodon left standing
  Sir, at least one of those words doesn't mean what you think it means.
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 02:57:34 JST FourOh-LLC
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  Again, I experienced the loss of the LUG, I was there for its full life cycle. Its not too difficult to foresee what is going to happen to the Fediverse when only ActivityPub and Mastodon left standing, with massive shitpoast nodes.
  
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- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 03:14:55 JST 0
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  @viber @eriner @Hoss @amerika @dcc @istvan @dj @FourOh-LLC
  
  Welcome to a fedi rite of passage.
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 03:15:53 JST Hoss Delgado
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  @jeffcliff there's unvaxxed niggas in this thread.
  @p there's niggas who don't believe in Fedi's glorious Revolver-powered future in this thread.
  
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- dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 03:15:54 JST dobó istván
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  @0 @amerika @dcc @eriner @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss Tag jeffers and p and make it a proper hellthread.
  
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- Suzu (suzu@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 03:34:20 JST Suzu
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  @eriner
  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC
  
  >send me your ID for proof of citizenship so you can remain anonymous
  
  U wot m8?
  
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- haberdasher (haberdasher@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 03:40:44 JST haberdasher
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  @Hoss @eriner @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC this thread is the least sexually gratifying circlejerk I've ever born witness to.
  
  > THANKS A LOT, HOSS
  
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- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 03:40:44 JST 0
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  @haberdasher @amerika @dcc @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  
  So which was the most satisfying circle jerk you watched?
  
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- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:10:05 JST 0
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  @YTFoidLover1488 @amerika @dcc @PurpCat @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  
  It's a long story and it's kinda difficult to explain, but demons, it's demons.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:10:06 JST Pawlicker
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  @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @Hoss go back to your chromebook
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  @PurpCat @FourOh-LLC @amerika @dcc @0 @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @Hoss Why does Bill Nye want me to give up my privacy so bad
  
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- FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:10:07 JST FourOh-LLC
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  Really, there are still hundreds of corporate forums which are NOT owner-operated, what all these schizos still doing here?!
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:10:08 JST Pawlicker
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  @eriner @Hoss @amerika @dcc @0 @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC why does the fedi attract such schizos lmao
  
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- ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:25:07 JST ≠
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  @Hoss @dcc @0 @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC
  
  I wanted to double underline this. Anonymity is necessary for honest speech because (a) censorship targets unpopular speech and (b) realistic and accurate observations are often unsociable (!!!) and would cause the speakers loss of friends, business partners, wives, girlfriends, sheep, etc.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:35:59 JST Pawlicker
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  @0 @amerika @dcc @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss ah yes ellen degeneres
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:36:01 JST Hoss Delgado
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  This is like an anti-advertisement. If you were running a "Who can sell the least amount of products to Hoss" contest it'd be really hard to beat the team with Google and Bill Nye on it.
  
  In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
- 0 (https://gh0st.live/users/0)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 04:36:01 JST 0
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  @Hoss @amerika @dcc @PurpCat @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC
  
  So, Ellen Degeneres' Apple Exclusive is what you're saying. That's what the world needs.
  
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- pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 13:30:56 JST pistolero
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  @amerika @istvan @0 @FourOh-LLC @Hoss @PurpCat @dcc @dj @eriner @viber
  
  > Gab gets more focus than this place because it concentrates an audience.
  
  Gab gets the focus because (1) it contains the currently accepted bogeyman and (2) it is a website and does not require a lengthy explanation about what "federation" means. I think you underestimate the impact of "requires lengthy exposition" on the media's attention, and their utter contempt for their own audience ensures that if they think it is hard to understand, they will not even mention it in a postscript to the story.
  
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- ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 13:30:57 JST ≠
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  @istvan @PurpCat @dcc @0 @eriner @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  
  Fedi is the space out behind the cafeteria where the uncool kids go to smoke.
  
  They have freedom; they are also irrelevant.
  
  Gab gets more focus than this place because it concentrates an audience.
  
  Fedi is just lots of FOSS people posting updates no one reads into the aether.
  
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- dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 13:30:58 JST dobó istván
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  @PurpCat @amerika @dcc @0 @eriner @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss It’s where we belong.
  
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- ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 13:31:47 JST ≠
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  @p @dcc @PurpCat @0 @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  
  I'm all for admitting the general public are morons or worse, incurious and apathetic, but no, I think there's more traction at Gab for a reason.
  
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- ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 16:10:47 JST ≠
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  @p @dcc @PurpCat @0 @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  
  The average reader is at a fifth-grade level.
  
  Whether an idiot or not, they are generally reading for recreation.
  
  They take it correspondingly seriously.
  
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- pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 16:10:48 JST pistolero
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  @istvan @amerika @dcc @PurpCat @0 @eriner @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  
  > The general public is one step away from sitting on a combination recliner/toilet and marathoning “Ouch My Balls”.
  
  It's driven from the complete opposite direction. You build a burger joint and people that show up and buy a burger tend not to be vegetarians, you build a soy hole and you'll get a lot of vegetarians. If you walk into a restaurant and ask the guy what they serve and the guy says "As a member of the general public, that's for you to decide! What do you think we should serve? We're doing a nationwide survey. Until the results are in, we don't know what we serve; I have some cold potatoes floating in tap water if you're hungry while you wait."
  
  There was a fairly good article in 2600 years and years ago (I think it made it into the best-of book), a journo basically wrote an apologia for why journos make the sort of mistakes they do, and the summary is "We have deadlines, so please say the important parts first if you are interviewed, and we can't put in anything if we're not sure enough that it's correct, we have limited column space, so we're looking for two or three sentences we can print, then the editor comes behind me and dumbs it down further", etc. (and that was the 90s, I think, maybe the 80s, but in either case, back when they did try to avoid printing things that they couldn't verify rather than cutting and pasting from Twitter), but he was very clear on the point, and I think the point is something anyone that has read their output could have guessed, but he described the average newspaper reader as an idiot. It doesn't matter whether the average reader *is* an idiot or not, but that the average idiot journo thinks he average reader is an idiot (and, for the last twenty years, journos apparently think the average reader is also extremely gullible).
  
  This, of course, drives a feedback loop. Maybe everyone that keeps up with the news looks at CNN and MSNBC at least once in a while, because those are designed for mass appeal, but not a lot of people read Daily Kos or Mother Jones unless they are left of the typical democrat, not a lot of people read the Babylon Bee unless they're somewhat more conservative than a normie republican, because those are written for an audience of a specific type, and the readers that fit the mold are the ones that read. Then the publication gets feedback from their readers, or they tuck a survey card into the January issue, they spam you with a bunch of popups demanding your consent for extremely invasive tracking and buy a bunch of data from Google and sometimes Facebook, they get what picture they can of their audience, they write for that audience (because they have an idea of that audience; they do not have an idea of the general public), and the more they're willing to pander, the better entrenched they are in their niche.
  
  So, you know, if the readers are idiots, it's because the journos write for idiots.
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- dobó istván (istvan@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jun-2024 16:10:49 JST dobó istván
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  @p @amerika @dcc @PurpCat @0 @eriner @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  > utter contempt for their own audience
  Hang on. I have to defend journos (ugh) on this one.
  The general public is one step away from sitting on a combination recliner/toilet and marathoning “Ouch My Balls”.
  You have to go beyond ELI5 and do ELIR in anything aimed there.
  
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- ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 04:08:37 JST ≠
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  @PurpCat @dcc @p @0 @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss
  
  They have connected with their audience and cultivated it.
  
  Same way that ZeroHedge did.
  
  But to connect with an audience, sites need to be visible.
  
  With a stream of equal data going past, nothing rises to the top.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 04:08:38 JST Pawlicker
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  @p @amerika @dcc @0 @eriner @istvan @viber @dj @FourOh-LLC @Hoss > but not a lot of people read Daily Kos or Mother Jones unless they are left of the typical democrat, not a lot of people read the Babylon Bee unless they're somewhat more conservative than a normie republican, because those are written for an audience of a specific type, and the readers that fit the mold are the ones that read.
  
  Trust Me I'm Lying had a good point about the purpose of these websites: while they don't have the widest readership they have the most influential readership. In particular (since the book was circa 2012), he namedropped Gawker, Drudge Report (when he was still involved), Politico, Business Insider, HuffPost, and a few others throughout the book as such sites.
  
  In particular, while they didn't have the largest readership, the readership was highly influential. The people reading these sites would be the sites the radio DJs and news anchors would repeat news stories from.
  
  The same could be said about certain forums and internet communities that have influential people reading them, ranging the gamut from Kiwi Farms to SomethingAwful to whatever is left of imageboards to ResetEra (and before that NeoGAF).
  
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- pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 04:09:05 JST pistolero
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  @amerika @PurpCat @0 @FourOh-LLC @Hoss @dcc @dj @eriner @istvan @viber
  
  > They have connected with their audience and cultivated it.
  
  Fuck an audience. I wouldn't be able to relax and talk to friends if I had an audience.
  
  In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
  
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