Notices by :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital), page 36

:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 10:11:17 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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> not sure why/when it became cheap in the US

When they worked out how to raise 10,000 birds in a single barn and process them automatically. Also they started breeding them to be basically all breast and barely have any legs to support themselves with.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 09:00:21 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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Is she the one who does single panel comics about her being a perfect mother and her husband being a selfish prick?

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 04:24:08 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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That or he's just past the part of his life where sex matters.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 04:24:07 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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Oh the kid's going to europe, she's not.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 04:24:06 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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Oh it's way worse. She's essentially been divorced and lost custody just without the formalities.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 01:43:11 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
- Kenny Blankenship
I don't think he realises what a self own this is.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 01-Jan-2023 05:08:02 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
He's a thoroughly scummy guy. He's the worst kind of con artist and preyed on anyone he possibly could squeeze a buck out of.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:51:58 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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China is investing heavily in overland trade routes for exactly that reason though. Like rail, pipeline and road links through Russia.

If they succeed the US does not have the military power to threaten those. The only way I can see a US-Chinese war happening is at sea. In which case I'd predict a US victory followed by a chinese withdrawal to the mainland then peace negotiations.

If the US were idiotic enough to try a land war then they'd end up ruining themselves financially and not achieving any goal of note.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:43:05 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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> The upside? Well, the opponents are in many ways similarly retarded.

That's pretty much my entire argument. China manages to be even more wasteful and incompetant than the feds. It's not even an upside for me: I'd rather have to deal with weak feds and a strong china. The chinese are half the world away, the feds are right here.

One thing kinda sums it up for me is when the MRE guy tasted chinese rations. They were pretty awful and probably gone off, but he mentions that they're just for show and the chinese being field kitchens with them everywhere. They just made fancy MREs because everyone else had them so they had to too.

I suspect the same is true of a lot of their high prestige military projects like stealth fighters and submarines and such. They look the part and they manage to impress foreign observers, but it's not like we can buy one to try it out.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:43:04 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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> China in general doesn't seem to be awfully interested in being a military hegemon.

Huh? Have you seen wolf warrior? They're salivating at the prospect of replacing the US as world ruler.

> Like I said, they have no history or culture of great military might. And I suspect it is not in them as a people. Which is fine.

That's just not true. China is absolutely huge precisely because they did. Imagine if we called europe "England" or "France" because they took over the entire continent. That's China.

> They clearly have A LOT of economic power they can wield.

Eh... they can grant or deny access to their domestic market and they can cut off the supply of consumer trinkets. Neither are essential.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:39:43 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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They've already done it quite a bit. Mostly muscling in on the Filipinos and Vietnamese. There's a limit to what the US will tolerate though and I think they know that. Everything they do is about taking as much as they can and pretending they're fearless without actually provoking a war.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:29:15 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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The goal of the US in opposing an invasion of Taiwan would be to protect their chip manufacturing though. Sitting back and watching it play out would mean conceding that objective. Even if China doesn't get them then the US is still denied them.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:15:47 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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Their construction industry is also very impressive. They build hundreds of high rise tower blocks per year. I wouldn't bet on many of them being around in 10-20 years though.

China is amazing at producing things in incredible quantity, but it's not typically the most durable or functional.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:12:10 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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By definition... shouldn't it have an equal amount of wins and losses? Or did both sides manage to win a few times?

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:12:09 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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Oh ok, gotcha.

Anyhow, I don't see how it could come down to anything other than a decisive battle in a US vs. China war.

If china tries to invade Taiwan then it needs to commit it's fleet. If it commits it's fleet then the US will need to commit theirs. So there's the decisive battle.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:11:48 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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> The better question would be: Who has the US fought, with the ability to fire a cruise missile at a carrier?

Well so far no one, since there's no dead carriers.

Why do you assert the chinese can do so?

> And no, the US does not have better missile tech,

Genuinely curious about the basis for that. A few years ago china couldn't make a rocket that didn't explode on launch without the help of US contractors. Why would they be better now?

> nor does it have more missiles. I don't have the number for missiles in my mind right now. But just for perspective. The US makes about 30k or so 155mm artillery shells per YEAR. Russia uses 60k per DAY in Ukraine.

1. That's production capacity, not reserves

2. As above, both of those categories only matter in a prolonged conflict.

> Like I'm serious dude, the US is NOT this undefeatable juggernaut. You were just born in a weird, "post-fuck up" time, where everyone got fucked by a stupid war, and a bunch of parasites got a hold of the one country that didn't, and it was protected by oceans on either side, so it became hegemon, cause all it had for competition were shitskins of various stripe.

Huh? The US has lost plenty of wars. I just don't see the chinks beating them at sea.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:11:47 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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Do they work and do they have the capability to locate a US carrier and close within missile range?

If so then great, carriers just became obsolete. If not then they have some really cool high tech dildos.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:04:58 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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It's not a question of morale though. If the bulk of chinas navy were defeated at sea it wouldn't matter how much the chinese government still had the will to fight, they wouldn't have the means to do so.

Equally, if the US loses a major engagement at sea it doesn't matter how weak or strong it's morale is, it'd be spread too thin to do anything with it either way.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 13:04:57 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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> Like, neither side(maybe) is stupid enough to throw away their Navy like that.

Well... if it comes to a war they're already committed to doing so. The US can't afford to allow east asian chip manufacturing to fall entirely into the hands of the PRC and the PRC wants Taiwan.

If the PRC moves on Taiwan then it must use it's navy. If the US wants to stop them then they must use theirs. Anything short of that means neither side is actually committed to a war and it's just fooling around and saber rattling.

> But again, when a Chinese carrier sinks, their people won't riot.

Why not? They're already rioting.

For that matter why would muricans riot? They just sat through decades of wars based on provable lies.

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:spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 31-Dec-2022 12:48:19 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
- sparky ⚓
Japan would bend over backwards for the US in that scenario purely because they know they're next. China wants revenge bad, they lost a lot of face in the 30s. They hate japan war more than they hate us.

I get what you mean about the logistics, but I'm not sure the war would last long enough for them to matter. I think it would be over for all intents and purposes within a week, month at most. Either china gets wiped off the pacific or the US does.

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