Notices by william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city), page 2

We need a default #peertube server, right?

Could #matrix become the groups functionality for the #SocialWeb? AKA could our identities be made to be shared between that service and #ActivityPub etc? Both are FOSS and decentralized, right? Thanks.

What do corporate board conversations about executive pay sound like? Do they really think that at the top they have to pay more to make the business run better, but that paying less makes perfect sense for all lower level employees? Or then what's with the lack of competition for the CEO jobs? #economics

@JeffC1956

I've heard that basically these people are all friends. They sit on multiple boards and go in and out of CEO positions. That there's basically no pressure to save money on this part of the business. Any of that true?

@amerika @JeffC1956

this should be transparently bad market policy. how does it persist?

I want to know how fedi sharing got turned on for the @potus #threads account. Basically, how is this outreach happening? In what circles are people being convinced that the decentralization of social media matters? Cause this is either a huge moment or more just nice/lucky. #SocialWeb

@aral @Gargron

If we grow, there will always be a ton of people able to make a decent argument that something is racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic. it will be endless battles between mods over what justifies action or else face defederation. and also tons of individuals having no idea they are silenced by entire servers. I get strict rules internally but servers blocking/silencing servers or individuals must require a higher bar and be done more transparently. #fediblockmeta

@alex

soyjaks?

@alex

so edgy bro. nailed your audience.

@volkris @Hyolobrika

I think where the fedi is held back is that development is more focused on type of service than type of user. maybe that's what you're saying too. the fedi is duplicating the platforms right now so there's a Twitter like instance/app and one for Instagram and Reddit etc. but our advantage is to let all those things commingle and have instances/apps for general users, but also ones for bloggers, podcasters, video creators. the one for gen users should handle all the inputs.

@volkris @Hyolobrika

I think that's true but it works. maybe something else would work better but imo we should be very skeptical of big tech coming along with "solutions" that require exactly what they can offer that we can't. BS seems better than most but maybe not good enough.

@volkris

my understanding is you don't get server to server interaction, but there's an intermediary. it's supposedly designed to make things easier at the edge of the network, but my skepticism leads me to think they will just end up being choke points.

it's hard to get people to care about decentralization. it basically has to be forced on us, or most of us will use Amazon etc. I worry about mastodon dot social for this reason too, but here it's almost like setting up WP. not with BS.

@Hyolobrika @volkris

I guess that would be good but isn't most of what we do on social media targeted towards the public? being able to tag people almost unavoidably creates confusion over who can see a post. I'd rather we somehow tie in another service and never try anything like a DM on fedi.

@volkris @Hyolobrika

it's a great point but I don't know how you build any momentum on a technology where different people come at it with such different expectations. instead you get a lot of people yelling at each other and curious newbies going somewhere else.

imo the big problem with fedi is that the tech argues for a system similar to Twitter, except even more open/public. but it was first utilized by people trying to be more private, to have their own spaces away from Twitter etc. Ugh.

@volkris @Hyolobrika

I don't understand your version of centralization. If my mobile could talk to your mobile directly, that would be basically full decentralization. If my mobile talks to my server which talks to your server which talks to your mobile, that's more decentralized than most servers also having to go through one of a few relays. that's my understanding of AP vs AT protocol.

Re interfaces and instances, fedi gives developers more options than BS does because, see above.

My read on #bluesky is that they are effectively sucking the air out of the decentralization balloon, whether they intend to or not. On the tech side, the #ATprotocol will prevent much decentralization from ever happening and divert the focus that was on #ActivityPub development. On the culture side, they deter a critical mass from developing here, which we need to overwhelm the influence of our most annoying users and lure in the people most people want to follow and interact with. #fediverse

@ruud @NoBeerToday @jonburr @aral @LALegault

I don't understand how we could discuss world events without violating your 2nd rule.

@ruud @NoBeerToday @jonburr @aral @LALegault

"No posts or links to content supporting, featuring, or promoting hate groups, terrorism, mass violence or calls to violence."

Most obviously, doesn't discussion about even Sept 11 "feature" mass violence and terrorism? In a more disputed sense, I'd say supporting most US foreign policy is calling for violence. And if you say there's an exception for defense, that depends on how far back in a conflict we start the clock. was Hiroshima terrorism?

@harriettmb @RustyBertrand @aral @LALegault

so your server is worse than MS just re her account. we obviously can't prove anything yet but fuck would it be nice to see how these decisions got made.

"the anatomy of a pressure campaign" ???

@LALegault

but your problem is the reverse. your server is cool but the biggest fedi server is limiting their own users' access to your individual account. they'd do that wherever it was hosted. ultimately we need to break up MS, but having it as a default server is so useful right now. we really just need a new norm for moderation.

but what the mob did to you re Israel criticism, I'd probably never convince people here not to try to censor clearly conservative opinions.