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1. william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 04:58:16 JST william.maggos

   My read on #bluesky is that they are effectively sucking the air out of the decentralization balloon, whether they intend to or not. On the tech side, the #ATprotocol will prevent much decentralization from ever happening and divert the focus that was on #ActivityPub development. On the culture side, they deter a critical mass from developing here, which we need to overwhelm the influence of our most annoying users and lure in the people most people want to follow and interact with. #fediverse

   • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 08:54:15 JST Hyolobrika

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     • volkris
     I like how everything is supposed to be end-to-end authenticated/verified, unlike fedi
   • william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 08:54:15 JST william.maggos

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     • volkris
     • Hyolobrika

     @Hyolobrika @volkris

     I guess that would be good but isn't most of what we do on social media targeted towards the public? being able to tag people almost unavoidably creates confusion over who can see a post. I'd rather we somehow tie in another service and never try anything like a DM on fedi.

   • william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 08:54:16 JST william.maggos

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     • volkris

     @volkris

     my understanding is you don't get server to server interaction, but there's an intermediary. it's supposedly designed to make things easier at the edge of the network, but my skepticism leads me to think they will just end up being choke points.

     it's hard to get people to care about decentralization. it basically has to be forced on us, or most of us will use Amazon etc. I worry about mastodon dot social for this reason too, but here it's almost like setting up WP. not with BS.

   • volkris@qoto.org's status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 08:54:17 JST volkris

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     @wjmaggos what about ATProtocol prevents decentralization?

     From what I’ve read it promotes it better than the protocols here.

   • volkris@qoto.org's status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 08:54:43 JST volkris

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     • Hyolobrika

     @wjmaggos

     It’s a really important point that different people use social media differently and expect different things out of social media.

     The reason I think this point is so important is because too often users will think the system works one way and expect it to work that way when in reality it’s working a different way.

     That applies here. You bring up the idea that most of what we do on social media is targeted toward the public, and platforms like Twitter and Mastodon seem very focused on that mode, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

     However, a user that expects more privacy and less targeting toward the public might find themself surprised if their content is much more public than they were expecting.

     So that’s why I grind that ax pretty regularly.

     @Hyolobrika