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@japananon Probably no merch for the latest GitS because the artist is a known hackfraud that does tracing.
But yeah, the latest GitS stuff doesn't interest me because "the vibes are off". Hard to explain, maybe I just want to remember what it was like than see what it has become now. :back_from_gab: :laughingman:
The first published source from Lockley came from himself editing wikipedia in 2015 for a future paper in 2016. There was obviously intention to introduce original research as fact, something that is not allowed on Wikipedia. But all subsequent hype over Yasuke came after the published book in 2019.
As to why Lockley did this... If you're a conspiracy theorist then here's some food for you: -2015 was the year when a half black half Japanese woman won miss Japan. -in 2019, we have the lead up to the Olympics in Japan, very convenient timeframe for a book like this to come out. -april 2019, Lockley's book gets published -may 2019, Chadwick Boseman (marvel black panther guy) gets tapped for a Yasuke movie. -covid messes with all of this though. And Chadwick Boseman dies leaving plans for this movie in limbo.
Circumstantial evidence leads me to believe that there was an organized effort to push this propaganda. Ain't no way a movie gets planned a month after the Yasuke book gets published. :back_from_the_cia:
@Dowito@japananon The problem is that Yasuke sources seem to primarily come from the Yasuke book. So academic papers won't help. The papers I did see were about Japan-afro studies.
I don't know if I'll look deeper into this. But the first thing I'd do is look up this "Kurosuke children's book" to better understand it. It would be funny if the major points of Yasuke were all present in Kurosuke. Just read this one synopsis: "Kuro-suke of Japan A Japanese childrenโs story about a black young man who worked for Oda Nobunaga during the Honnรดji Revolt. It is a masterpiece that contributed to the development of the historical genre in Japan.
View Source Type: book Creator: Kurusu Yoshio Publisher: Iwasaki Shoten Date: 1968 Location: Japan Continent: Asia Keywords: samurai, shogun, battle, war, castle "
Again this would be REALLY FUNNY if this entire Yasuke thing was just plagiarized historical fiction passed off as historical fact. thebook.jpg
@Dowito@japananon I decided to do a side quest and look into the sources for Yasuke, navigating Japanese sources is hard so I'm gonna focus on the wikipedia article because this is basically the primary source being used to push this agenda.
The earliest "evidence" for Yasuke (or any black guy) is of various letters about the black people they brought over into Japan. First problem is that they're in languages people can't read. Second some of the cited wiki sources are about what people called black people, which is irrelevant because we're talking about a named individual.
Earliest books about black people were historical fiction. The book "Kurosuke" seems to be the earliest idea for a black samurai. Coincidentally the book was published in 1968, 4 years after the Tokyo Olympics which could mark the first times foreigners were seen en masse by the Japanese public. (Not counting American occupation)
Modern sources ALL reference Lockley's book. From 2019 onwards every Yasuke source comes from Lockley and nobody else. The articles themselves seem to be mirrors of each other referencing the common points of the book and no alternative evidence.
Picture evidence is pretty stupid. As they're all "here's a black guy that could be Yasuke!" uhh... No. I don't know why Japanese would draw black people in old art but take this example posted below of sumo wrestlers. That guy is the only black guy in this art, however taking in the full context of the image the guy having dark skin may be using color to contrast the subject with the rest of the image. The black sumo has a clear powerful grip and ready to toss that guy, other guy only has a one handed grip and his feet are up in the air, as the meme goes bro was not built for this.
Based on everything sourced on Wikipedia I have a funny theory. Lockley could have just plagiarized Kurosuke for his own means and then tried to pass it off as historical fact. :jokerlol:
Look, I know that black people haven't been respected in ancient times. However we are still talking about a person that is supposed to be a samurai working under Nobunaga. Samurai were the celebrities of their time and black people in Japan would be hard to ignore. I don't care how much people think Japan hates black people or how Nobunaga was thought about at the time. There would have been more documentation other than Jesuit letters, there would have been Japanese sources too. 1094px-Black_sumo_wrestler_in_17th_century.jpg Sumล_yลซrakuzu_byลbu.jpg
I'm supposed to believe that thousands of years of recorded Japanese written down but a single white guy was able to figure out the secret history of a black samurai while hundreds of Japanese historians could not.
Obviously a lot of people were in this con, I wonder if anybody in Japan complained about this previously? GS5nAoVbYAAkEL-.jpeg
@Remi@Vidmastereon It's still an inflammatory take because the people working in these fields are young an highly motivated to work. You can't expect them to have the same experiences as older generations because that way of life doesn't exist.
Osamu Tezuka legendary manga author lived through WW2 bombings. Yeah bro let me cook up another world war so we can get more experienced creators. (Not happening)
Modern creators problem is that they aren't experienced, not necessarily in life but in the fields they work in. Calarts being a good example of the problem as apparently they don't respect older creators either because they're old or problematic. By cutting off old techniques and history you cut yourself off from the knowledge of how to do things. Old Pixar referenced and learned from anime. Creators in the 80s and 90s were referencing anime. Despite any quality issues from back then those old cartoons are still miles ahead in animation than modern works.
As for video games older developers were just more experienced. Considering they could produce legendary games in the span of a few months compared to modern devs that need two console lifecycles to make anything. Real world experience won't help that, they are simply not skilled enough and their organization is bad.
@poopernova@Goalkeeper Strongest terrorist: "I have planned for years and gathered tons of explosive material to explode in a major city for the glory of god" - :soymad:
Vs
Weakest diversity hire: "I press da update button" - :chad0:
@ArdainianRight Mandating ideas over right and wrong is legislation against sin. If a person doesn't function under the "right and wrong" ideas what should be done about them? Surely not a slap on the wrist.
Jesus in the Bible was crucified under blasphemy laws. Strict reading over religious morality leads to death. Everyone says "it won't be me I'd be fair" but this has never been the case. :backfromgab: :jesus:
@LukeAlmighty@matrix I'd be more concerned that a building with a clear vantage point and open parking lot wasn't covered enough. If random people could see a guy climbing up there then there's no excuse that law enforcement couldn't immediately go after that guy. But I don't know the timeframe of when the guy got up there and started shooting.
Brock's onigiri being translated as "donut" was justified from translators as being too foreign for English audiences. But now? Everyone knows about Japan, especially Californians who these writers and translators normally are. And still were given the same excuses that the audience "doesn't understand" the original meaning or intention of Japanese media even though the audience is well aware and used to Japanese and foreign media. They give excuses so they can freely flex their reddit humor and establishment destruction under cover without admitting their intentions. And some actually do admit to this! Screenshot_20240713-082952-064.png
And WHO are these translators? Everyone says we should be hiring these people, so vouch for them! Give some names and what they've worked on!
And if there are BAD translators I guess that means we should be free to criticize these bad translators and name them to get them fired. I'm certain nobody would give us pushback for that right? :back_from_gab: Screenshot_20240713-084103-372.png