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@Vril_Oreilly @Griffith @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck Caste still matters. The gulf between the patricians and plebs, the brahmins and shudras, is intractable.
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@narada @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck do you think that the best of nigger's patrician can win against white's plebs?
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@MK2boogaloo @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck If he were a genuine brahmin, yes. That's not a good reason to race mix though
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@MK2boogaloo @narada @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck Actually yeah
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@narada @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck I see.
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@MK2boogaloo @BronzeAgeHogCranker @Griffith @NirtyDigger @Vril_Oreilly @yockeypuck Said brahmin, meant patrician. The problem with this hypothetical is that niggers never maintained the Hestia/Agni hearths, and therefore couldn't be patricians/brahmins in the proper sense
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@narada @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck what's Hestia/Agni hearths? I think Agni has something to do with fire but idk.
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@MK2boogaloo @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck I started being more literal about the meaning of patrician and brahmin when I got to that than I was at first. The Roman patricians had a tradition of maintaining fires burning constantly in hearths in their homes. These were believed to have been handed to mankind originally by Prometheus. Vesta (Roman)/Hestia (Greek) was the goddess of these hearths. Having come from this tradition and maintaining the fire in the home was the requirement to be a true patrician. If the fire ever went out, your family station declined to plebian status.
The Vedic Aryans had a very similar tradition among brahmins, but the hearth was dedicated to Agni rather than Hestia/Vesta
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@narada @Griffith @BronzeAgeHogCranker @MK2boogaloo @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck Damn that's very similar to the Zoroastrian fire temples
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Few understand the significance.
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@narada @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck
ah I heard something like that. From what I know, the Greek conception of body and soul was different than us. They believed that the soul and the body are the same, so if one of their family dies the body must be cremated and be placed in the burning fire of their home. That's probably the reason why no Greeks want to die on the sea and why in Thucydides book about the Peloponnesian war, both sides always gave the body of their enemy back in truce shortly after battle.
I see this tradition being mentioned in other area, like Persia and in the Himalayan among the Bon people. Something regarding the Aryan tradition before Paganism?
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@Vril_Oreilly @Griffith @BronzeAgeHogCranker @MK2boogaloo @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck I don't know as much about that, but it wouldn't surprise me. Persians were Aryans
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@MK2boogaloo @Griffith @Vril_Oreilly @BronzeAgeHogCranker @NirtyDigger @yockeypuck Could be. I'm not too sure. Though I do think the Greek conception of the soul, at least according to Plato, is what later influenced the Christian tradition.
I gravitate toward Sanskrit terms for these things generally because it's still part of contiguous tradition. Jiva as soul/body and atma as metaphysical/timeless self are terms that have always served me well