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BigBoss Luffy (bigboss_luffy@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:39:25 JST BigBoss Luffy

church has been doing a marriage series, this week was on singleness.
good info, stuff I need to meditate and work on.
Pastor wants to talk to me and a few elders on what they can do to help singles after I brought up concerns after sermon.
Pastor had a great sermon.
said that singles have a unique position where they don't have to worry about the needs of a spouse nor kids, and can focus their energy and attention to the Church.
He also told married couples to not downplay nor disregard the struggles and heartaches of singles, nor to downplay the struggles they face as married people.
but also listening to a sermon on the benefits and greatness of singleness from a man who is married, it kinda feels a bit flat, like:
"I understand you are speaking from scripture, but you don't understand the extend we as singles are going through and struggling with in this modern age"
After the sermon I confronted my pastor.
I shocked him by telling him how predatory dating apps are and how hard it is finding Christian people on them, even on the "christian" dating apps. I also asked what the church was doing for singles, since he talked about single groups in the church, but pointed out that none are listed, and asked how the church is helping singles be content but also help them find someone too.
I know it comes down to where I need to check my heart.
I need to see how I can use my singleness as a benefit.
but the point stands that I feel like my church and the Church in general forgets about singles.
They focus primarily on families, and give us less than crumbs.

I will see if my pastor follows through with his promise of meeting with me and bringing in some elders to talk strategies my church can do.
I will hope against desperation, but right now my heart is very heavy.
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- BigBoss Luffy (bigboss_luffy@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:50:56 JST BigBoss Luffy
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  my pastor's response was "man was not created to be alone"
  and heavily urged married couples to include singles into their families and lives.
  so that the single person isn't alone in their struggles with life
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:50:56 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 You guys get the impression that only the men ever get chewed out and chastised for being single? That's how it is over in prot-land. We only ever get the stick for being single, while every boomer soothes the inflamed whores' egos with the fact that they're entitled to have every last bite of their own cake before eating ours, too.
  
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- Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:50:57 JST Branman65🍟
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  @BigBoss_Luffy marriage should be held above singleness I think. if God wanted us to be single he would have never created marriage
  
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- Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:50:58 JST Branman65🍟
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  @BigBoss_Luffy I'm not gonna give you my whole thesis on my thoughts on singleness theology because it's long and I am a shit explainer but I'll give you a TLDR: modern anti-marriage traditions are a negative influence upon the Church and are in error. but the Church thus slacks responsibilities because many congregations simply do not give a fuck if you die alone
  
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- BigBoss Luffy (bigboss_luffy@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:50:58 JST BigBoss Luffy
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  I can see that reasoning.
  as I also see the goodness of both marriage and singleness.
  my issue is that the church neglects in serving their single members in their needs and growth
  
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- BigBoss Luffy (bigboss_luffy@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:50:59 JST BigBoss Luffy
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  My issue is that the Church no longer helps single members find someone nor helps them be content with singleness.
  "oh there's clubs, bars, and now dating apps, well guess that means we don't have to do anything"
  it's just like many other responsibilities the church started then handed off to the world.
  
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- Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:51:00 JST Branman65🍟
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  @BigBoss_Luffy the modern Church hates marriage. it's a real fucking shame
  
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- nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 12:15:27 JST nugger
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  @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 THAT INTERPRETATION, OF CELIBACY BEING ELEVATED ABOVE MARRIED LIFE, WOULD BE CONSIDERED INNOVATION TO THE TRADITION OF MY CHURCH COMMUNION
  
  THERE ISN'T JUST ONE GOOD THING THAT YOU CAN DO AND DEVIATING FROM IT IS BAD
  LIKE OH, DIVINE CALLING -- POTTERY
  THATS MY SPECIAL POWER TALENT AND IF I GO DO POETRY INSTEAD WELL IM FUCKED UP
  YOU CAN DO ANY GOOD THING
  
  THE SOCIAL DYSFUNCTION IS LIKE A PLAGUE
  IT IS INFLICTED ON PEOPLE FROM WITHOUT
  EVEN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INTERPRETATION OF MONASTIC VS FAMILIAL CALLING ISN'T AN EXCUSE FOR NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP AMELIORATE IT
  I THINK IT'S NORMALCY BIAS AND THE INSTITUTIONAL LEVEL OF LAZINESS
  
  WHEN IM LAZY -- I'VE GOT A THING TO DO BUT I DON'T WANNA
  WHEN A GROUP IS LAZY -- PEOPLE SEE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS DOING, BUT THE PROCESS OF MOBILIZING THE GROUP TOWARD THE NECESSARY ACTION WILL LEAD TO THAT PERSON STEPPING ON OTHERS TOES AND EXPENDING RESOURCES
  SO FROM A PERSONAL LEVEL THE STUPOR DOESN'T EVEN FEEL LIKE LAZINESS, IT FEELS LIKE TACTFULNESS
  
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- ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 12:15:27 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️
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  @nugger @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 I'm genuinely happy that your church has it's head on straight. :02_heart:
  
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- nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 12:15:28 JST nugger
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  @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 IT'S NOT EVEN A DICHOTOMY
  YEAH YOU HAVE LESS TIME AND RESOURCES TO SPEND ON THE CHURCH COMMUNITY, BUT NAVIGATING FAMILY LIFE WELL IS SERVICE TO GOD
  
  ITS NOT JUST THE PRIEST SAYING FUNKY WORDS THATS SERVICE TO GOD, AND WE'RE ALL JUST ALONG FOR THE RIDE
  YOU CAN SERVE GOD IN EVERY WALK OF LIFE
  
  IDK WHAT THE POINT OF BRINGING THAT UP IN A SERMON WOULD BE OTHER THAN "HEY DON'T DOG DOWN ON THE SINGLES AND VICE VERSA"
  IT'S NOT THE STATUS DISPARITY THATS THE PROBLEM -- ITS THE SINGLEHOOD BEING AN EPIDEMIC SWEEPING THE NATION
  
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- ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 12:15:28 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️
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  @nugger @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 The issue is that there is an implicit imperative with the common pro-celibacy interpretation of 1 Corinthians 7. We are commanded throughout Scriptures to remove everything that will distract and turn us from the Lord, like in Luke 14:26 and Colossians 3:2. If they are correct regarding 1 Cor. 7, then singles must discouraged from marriage per the teachers' interpretation of verses 28-35. It doesn't matter that these same teachers cannot read the room and understand we are in a Psalm 78 world where "fire devours the young men and young women have no marriage song," and the West in one generation from demographic implosion and race wars. In their eyes demographics can go to hell, the singles are in their best station in life. They don't merely believe that they don't need to help singles get married. They believe they shouldn't help, lest they prevent the work of God.
  
  That is why the common and traditional interpretation of 1 Cor. 7 has to go. It breaks Scriptures and turns Godly ethics inside out. It came from the spirit of the the demonic "forbidding of marriage".
  
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- ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 12:15:29 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 Women are usually the ones push the popularized form of the "Gift of Singleness" cottage industry in the churches. Unwitting, married, and male theologians will help formulate technical "proofs" for these popularizers, but it's not the single men who pushing in books, articles, and videos the theological theory that celibacy is a universal and net positive gift for all historical ages and marriage necessarily prevents one from properly serving God.
  
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- nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 05:02:42 JST nugger
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  @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 LIKE I DON'T THINK THAT FATHER WILMUS BOBERG OF GOOBER CREEK WISCONSIN FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH IS SOME SORT OF ARDENT ADVOCATE FOR MONASTICISM ON PRINCIPLE
  
  I THINK HE'S JUST AFRAID THAT ANYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE INTERPRETED AS A SLIGHT AGAINST THE WOMENFOLK -- WILL GET HIM INTO A CATTY PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE STANDOFF WITH THE CHOIR DIRECTRESS, HALF THE PARISH COUNCIL, THE SECRETARY, THE LADIES CLUB AND WHATEVER ELSE
  
  SO HE'D RATHER LET THE SINGLES GO AT IT ALONE AND "KEEP THE PARISH INTACT"
  HE HAS TO PLAY INTERNAL POLITICS
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 05:08:51 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @nugger @SuperSnekFriend @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 I've always had a dispute w/ my orthofrens over monasticism. I think a good chunk of its most noisy adherents today are coping for being unable to fulfill their duty to their families, and it's a bandaid to say that you're devoting your life to Godly pursuits (while not really changing your life or fully eschewing worldly vices). I've met a good number of weirdo ascetics in my lifetime, and it's always pained me that the saintly souls that want to devote their life to utter good are only ever funneled into giving up their lives in the service of the spiteful brown hordes of the global south.
  Maybe I take issue with it because I don't believe the good Lord prefers we lose even MORE quality bloodlines at this time. Whatever I could do as a celibate (which, as a still childless man, I basically count) pales in comparison to having 5 white kids to keep the faith alive.
  It's no 1320 AD anymore, we simply don't have the surplus of high-quality white men to send off to translate literature and keep esoteric knowledge safe these days. They're better spent manning the battlements, sad as it is to say.
  
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- nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 11:31:20 JST nugger
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  @branman65 @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy ITS OK IF YOU DID, THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC SPEAKING COMPETITION
  I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE
  
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- Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 11:31:20 JST Branman65🍟
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  @nugger @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy I KNOW ITS OK. IM JUST SAYING THAT MY STATEMENT WAS RATHER CLEAR
  
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- nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 11:31:21 JST nugger
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  @branman65 @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy HUH?
  
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- Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 11:31:21 JST Branman65🍟
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  @nugger @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy DID I STUTTER
  
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- Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 11:31:22 JST Branman65🍟
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  @SuperSnekFriend @nugger @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy yes pro-celibacy pro-monkery theology is genocidal filth that must be done away with completely
  
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- Shauni (shauni@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:28:07 JST Shauni
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  @nugger @SuperSnekFriend @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 I once sperged out at my young adult church group because I didn't see "a shared vision" and everyone seems to be in a holding pattern. Granted, there were some unofficial young mens groups and speed dating if you asked around, but I wasn't feeling it.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 07:29:24 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @Shauni @nugger @SuperSnekFriend @BigBoss_Luffy @branman65 ICR who it was but I heard there was some prot sect that pushes all the singles off into a totally different structure, like you turn 18 and they say "here kid, you're going to singles mass now, go sit by a stranger and learn to talk to women"
  Not sure if real but a cool idea at least, shows that they're willing to lose attendance pushing people out of their comfort zone just to do the right thing
  
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- EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:30:08 JST EdBoatConnoisseur
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  @branman65 @SuperSnekFriend @nugger @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy celibacy worship was an extension of martyrdom worship.
  
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- Branman65🍟 (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:30:09 JST Branman65🍟
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  @EdBoatConnoisseur @SuperSnekFriend @nugger @WashedOutGundamPilot @BigBoss_Luffy all roman/orthodox style hyperasceticism/monasticism including celibacy worship is an extension of martyrdom worship
  
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