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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 10:41:35 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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   It's a lot like how they used to trap men in nerd shit like star wars - doesn't matter that they ruined it, all those nerds STILL spend their time on star wars, it's just on the opposite end of the equation where they watch livestreams, reviews, panels all about its failings.

   In a way that's smarter, it's easier to make media that's easy to hate, because people love feeling things, and it's easier to fill them with rage at something gay and shitty than it is joy at the ascendant quality of well-made art.

   Time sinks are time sinks, even this kind of thing. Cultivating discipline to direct our time better is literally the smallest scale thing we can do to fight ZOG in the cultural sphere.
   
   RT: https://poa.st/objects/226196cf-d438-4af6-955d-0184638eee2d

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 10:48:58 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     And this is why I always say "even if the games are free or stolen, you're still paying with your time."

     Gaming demands 100% of your CPU when you actively play it - that's a luxury as far as hobbies go today (gladwell's a faggot but the general rule is food for thought: would you rather master FPS shooting or obscure history? Know small motor repair? Programming? Sewing?)

   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:04:10 JST veff :trash:

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     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     • veff :trash:

     @Giganova8 @WashedOutGundamPilot And the productivity mindset actually increases burnout resistance, it's just flawed because a lot of guys get too into it and become workaholic resume-builders who are universally despised. Yeah the game is rigged, but to a certain extent we need our NEETs to at least get some kind of skill just in case their parents die or they can't support them anymore

   • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:04:10 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

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     @veff @WashedOutGundamPilot
     Yeah, but there's a difference between "hey maybe do things other than videogames" and this idea I see a lot of "NOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE PRODUCTIVE 24/7, 365 OR YOU'RE A FAILURE!!!!". You can get into a healthy mindset of productivity, but when you took your gaming sabbatical, did you do nothing but "productive work"? Going after hardcore turbo-NEETs is good, but there are too many people on "the online right" who will lose their minds over anyone having the slightest bit of leisure or fun. (not Woggy btw, he's pretty cool about it)
   • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:04:11 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

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     It's not a time sink if you legitimately enjoy what you're doing. Grinding out some FOTM BattlePass™ trash because you feel obligated is a waste, but if you're doing something you enjoy, then it's simply not. Maybe that time could have been spent better, but the same could be said for just about anything under the sun, including posting stuff online like this. Trying to make your every waking second SUPER PRODUCTIVE will just leave you burnt out and dead early from the stress, because you'll never be "productive enough" for that mindset. :shrug:
   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:04:11 JST veff :trash:

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     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

     @Giganova8 @WashedOutGundamPilot I think there's a balance. Speaking personally, I took a gaming sabbatical for years partially just to prove I could, and in that time I had so many different offers and opportunities thrown at me simply because I was out and about rather than cooped up in my room.

   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:04:25 JST veff :trash:

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     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

     @Giganova8 @WashedOutGundamPilot There were times when I literally would do nothing, like sitting in a library and got a job offer by the staff because I was approachable (didn't have headphones in) and that kept me afloat for a while. I'm also not advocating for an elimination of hobbies, but there's things that are as fun as video games and get you out of tough positions. Ever operated a forklift, excavator, or crane? The learning curve can be rough but entertaining for a while, and theres enough heavy machines that you could feasibly hop from one to the next once you get bored. I mean, dudes play euro truck simulator for free when they could be getting cash doing it for real.

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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:14:33 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
     • veff :trash:

     @Giganova8 @veff Video games are weird though, they ARE kinda lightswitchy, because you get the taste for life without them and when you go back you feel offended, they're a lot harder to enjoy. I get pissed when I try out new games and see that I'm running digital errands for NPCs, the brands just don't value your time as a player, they're filled with all kinds of boring, make-work fluff. I'd like to pick up flight sim dogfighting or factorio or something, gotta save it for retirement or playing w/ kids in the future.

     We've all got our vices and pleasures, I don't begrudge people theirs - I just don't like it when we help each other lie and pretend they aren't vices at all. The only man I'll really tear into about gaming is a father - it's insanely offensive to watch friends lucky enough to be blessed with children expect to live like they did in college. Have seen genX marriages fail like that too. Dad comes home to have 3 days off and he spends it all playing warcraft in the basement with the door closed - those are hours of fathering time his children are robbed of forever, all so he can basically masturbate. It's ludicrous, and it turns me into a raving crazy man because most of the girls in the fam somehow married these guys, and I see the way their sons' eyes light up when I show even the tiniest interest in their lives - they want daddy's attention, but he's too busy spending time with his "friends" on a 17 hour raid attempt

   • SettlerLife (settlerlife@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:15:47 JST SettlerLife

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     • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:
     @skylar @WashedOutGundamPilot This here too. People hear this and they hear "why aren't you working 2 part time jobs instead of watching tv and sleeping when you get home from work? You could be earning money!"
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   • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:15:48 JST スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:

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     >noooooo you have to be productive for the entire time you're awake every single day of your life
   • samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:20:14 JST samjay ganges

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     • SettlerLife
     @SettlerLife @skylar @WashedOutGundamPilot It is a delicate balance.
     
     I have several family members that have been very successful, well off financially, and have a high status job in business, the government, or the military.
     
     None of them have kids, and their entire life's work has been maintaining and strengthening ZOG. All the "productive" time they used to learn new skills and advance their place in life was for nothing.
     
     It is better to do nothing than help your enemies. It is better to waste your time than unknowingly make your situation worse.
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   • WhiteExodite (bleedingphoenix@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:20:45 JST WhiteExodite

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot this is what i despise about hatewatching and lowering standards. there are plenty of older games, books, and movies you could be spending time on instead and yet a lot of people will keep up with current thing even if it makes them miserable. it doesn't cause any cultural shift, either.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:22:41 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:
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     • veff :trash:

     @birdulon @veff @Giganova8 It spins me up every time I see it. They think they can just let the kid raise itself on ipads & pop culture, then 20 years later they're freaking out because "I betcha my damn commie leftist kids would rat me out to the secret police for voting trump, man! How do those damn schools brainwash them so hard?!?!"

     Let alone their daughters. It's a lot harder to become a whore when dad's got you protected, loved, and sheltered with the clan. Those girls even hit puberty a couple years later, mother nature doesn't need to pull the ripcord too early

   • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 12:22:42 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp:

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     • veff :trash:
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @veff @Giganova8 Watching an online friend with an infant son bugman hard on various vidya whenever he gets free time, it's a bit sad.
   • veff :trash: (veff@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 13:13:09 JST veff :trash:

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     • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

     @Giganova8 @WashedOutGundamPilot Maybe this is a bit hyperbolic, but I really don't care about the opinion of guys who overreact to hints of productivity. They aren't useful and won't be useful for anything other than cannon fodder when the power goes out.

     https://poa.st/@veff/posts/Ae2p2DDCTSSlhkDrou

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   • Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead: (giganova8@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 13:13:10 JST Giganova8 :sob2: :nacho_dead:

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @veff
     Absolutely true, but at the same time we have plenty of people who will have nuclear-grade meltdowns at the slightest hint you may be doing something other than working and "being productive". It's all a balancing act, and the answer to reckless hedonism isn't to become some ascetic monk who never does anything that might be even slightly unproductive, and lives in constant misery. There's too much "HOW DARE YOU HAVE FUN" and not enough "hey man, maybe have some other hobbies too, and not just spend all day on this dumb game?". Attacking people outright generally just leads to them entrenching their behaviors further, especially when the attacker is just some guy on the internet.
   • nimrod (nimrod@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 14-Oct-2024 07:37:25 JST nimrod

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot It appears they looked at the Howard Stern phenomena of "people who hate him listen longer than people who love him" and decided it would be a good strategy for everything else.
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