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:bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay: (rmiv@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:51:23 JST :bible_wh::confederateflag:RMIV⛎:sonnenrad::yay:

the NJP is no more. it was a grift all along.
https://t.me/NationalJusticeParty/715

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- Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:51:23 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
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  @RMIV Good. I'm sick of their spam and drama.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:53:08 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @RMIV .....kinda crazy how I was saved from touching all this just because I tuned in and thought "if these guys can't put on an entertaining podcast, why would I pay to join their fanclub?"
  Still, as imperfect as it was, I don't love seeing a pro-white org fold up shop, it means there's never gonna be a redemption arc for the NJP brand. :blobbored:
  
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- Twoinchdestroya (twoinchdestroya@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:56:39 JST Twoinchdestroya
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @RMIV platinum was the first intro for me to the NJP, glad I didn't jump in
  
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- Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell: (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:56:39 JST Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
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  I think the concept is/was good, but you need to have very principled people who are averse to greed being leaders. No one's perfect, don't get me wrong, and we can't expect people to be. However, it seems from what I can tell that the NJP went down the bureaucratic route simply to make themselves seem more legitimate but all that seems to have done was cause tensions. I do not know the whole story of this, but it seems some egos may have gotten inflated to a point where it was just unsustainable. It's hard to find real leaders, and things like this make it more difficult to build any good faith within any community.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:01:37 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @matty @Twoinchdestroya @RMIV I wrote VOLUMES about how they were incompetently run, turns out I was still giving them credit.
  The decision to make a party from a streaming show was so painfully, cripplingly retarded it continues to amaze me even now. Those characters are entertainers, not thought leaders. They could have done well being the funny outreach arm, making a likable show to bring new eyes to the party. But having them involved in the ACTUAL party? Horrendous, they're too internet-poisoned to be able to handle outreach.
  The very fact they would say stupid, boneheaded shit chasing people off every week would be damn near fireable in my book. They should have approached even attackers as "hey, I hear you, I disagree, but that's okay, someday you'll join us when you see what we can do for our people, too" instead of jumping right to "go fuck yourself, don't ever come here again asshole".
  That cohn weirdo is faggy, creepy, and weird with his hippie "love everyone" mentality but it's exactly something that was so terribly missing in this would-be NSDAP. You can't sacrifice a normal life for your white brothers and change their world for the better if you have palpable, pulse-hammering hatred for them....and nearly every big brouhaha they had on the podcast was caused by that cauldron of liquid rage bubbling over on some viewer
  
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- Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:01:48 JST Jonaschuzzlewit
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  I have been enjoying the daily rake takes on it. Been pretty illuminating... Sarcasm off the chain as well...
  
  Small groups awakening those they personally know. I think that is the best answer. Everything else will be corrupted by you know who or so it seems
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:04:23 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya We'll all learn from this and probably warn our sons about it. The time will be more ripe for this kind of thing then, when it's even MORE plain to all normal whites that they're being attacked. They at least provided a theoretical plan for how to organize. (I don't think the LLC idea is all bad, it could be done well with the right clarity and oversight)
  I'm not going to be too blackpilled about it, I'm more grumpy at the fact that this has done so much damage to friendships and alliances since the group started. Now there are permanent grudges and infighting, we got plenty of that crap already.
  
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- Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell: (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:04:37 JST Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
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  Indeed - however a real political party will one day be necessary as the retards on the right and left die off. It may happen organically as the "let's go brandon" types are replaced with the "why do these guys all have big noses" types and the "damn rethuglikkans!!" types are replaced with the "let's be more forward about erasing White people" types. The schism will grow with time as is the law of entropy.
  
  The right is full of passionate people but fuck do we suck at organizing. If we could stop infighting and purity spiraling over stupid shit for like 15 minutes, I think some real change could be made.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:07:16 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @matty @Jonaschuzzlewit @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya We suck at organizing because capable white men aren't throwing their lives away on this yet. There ARE guys who have the charisma, the intelligence, and the autism required to both lead, recruit, organize, and maintain an ironclad white advocacy group.
  But those men are in demand, even with diversity. They're getting paid hundreds of dollars an hour to use their talents on other things, so white collectivism is permanently outbid - can't really bring them over with the promise of endless vitriol, doxing, and joblessness......but one day ZOG will take care of that for us when it renders them unable to get even wendy's pay for their time.
  
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- BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:12:15 JST BroDrillard
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  Keep in mind the usual suspects are likely busy in the background stirring problems.
  
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- synapsid (synapsid@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:12:16 JST synapsid
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  I think smaller, regionalized fraternities / brotherhood organizations would be the best, all loosely connected but still organized enough to help people start their own in other parts of the countries. Get a bunch of men together, help each other out, try to get your group as self sufficient as realistically possible.
  
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- Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell: (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:12:17 JST Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
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  Ehh I hope we don't have to get to that point. I'd much rather get a head start to provide that safety net to people who do stand up and fight back. I don't want to see people ruined. I would rather take their hand and help them up when the enemy tries.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:13:50 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @synapsid @matty @Jonaschuzzlewit @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya What sucks is that bringing up the prospect of fraternal orders, like the old school ones you see in the midwest, is always conflated with illuminati/freemason nonsense so guys avoid it even in the hypoethetical.
  It at least won't be on the table until the boomers are done and gone. All it takes right now is ONE guy's dad showing up and insisting on bringing his "legit, based" black neighbor/coworker and the whole thing will be sued into oblivion
  
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- samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:14:16 JST samjay ganges
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya The most important lesson I got from this is that I was willing to give them a shot because who else was doing this sort of thing? How long can White people just sit by and wait for the perfect group of people to lead the way?
  
  So you look at people like Tate or Tucker or Jones and wonder how people could be fans of theirs, and it is because they are the best option regular people are aware of.
  
  That's something to watch out for in regards to zoomers. As they catch on to the anti-White hate, eventually they will feel they *must* do something -- if only to find other people who can help them fix their messed up life, and to make friends -- and will join whatever groups appears to be the most "based" to them.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:19:04 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @BroDrillard @synapsid @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya From the outside, it sounded like they were a horrifyingly intrusive option for guys with something to lose. The whole vetting process, the odd national connection that made it sound like your info was cached away for a rainy (blackmail) day, it all sounded skeevy to me - and that's without talking about the fact it's evidently just hanging out & drinking with a bunch of underemployed guys hitting on your woman.
  I just reached out to more distant cousins instead, rekindled family connections in place of joining a dissident network. Already proved helpful a few times over. Nothing beats blood.
  Some good ideas in the pool party idea, but the execution gave me the willies, and when I asked even a little bit to see whether or not MY privacy/life/career had any safeguards protecting them I was med with "FED!"
  
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- BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:19:05 JST BroDrillard
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  I thought pool parties were an attempt at this?
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:20:07 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @matty @synapsid @Jonaschuzzlewit @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya With the right chief, most everyone is happy to be an indian though. A good, inspiring, true leader lets you rest easy. It's only an incompetent leader that has competitors
  
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- Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell: (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:20:08 JST Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
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  That's the idea for the most part. But I worry that such groups would eventually fracture because it's hard to find that many leaders. If you want an authoritarian party with a spokesperson, that's what you have to aim for. My concern with a large decentralized movement is you'd get too many chiefs and not enough Indians. It's all very complex. I don't have the answers, I'm just pissing into a sea of piss hoping someone will think my piss looks good enough and we can combine piss streams.
  
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- synapsid (synapsid@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:21:07 JST synapsid
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  Pretty much, maybe they should have focused on that instead of trying to make a million podcasts complaining about niggers all the time.
  
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- Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell: (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:21:22 JST Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
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  Now, if the happy fun times arrive and a political solution in earnest is completely off the table then many like minded decentralized cells across the land would be the way to go since there would be no snake to cut the head off of. Of course, this is hypothetical and I'm just bouncing ideas off of you for a book I plan on writing at some point in the distant future.
  
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- BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:32:48 JST BroDrillard
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  Destroying small communities and disconnecting large families was a very successful tactic for the rulers. Those are the focal points where trust can be built out from. It's no accident that historically all "our thing"s were mostly based on ethnic and familial ties.
  
  With the economy turning bad local self-help communities may form again. Things can be built from there.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:34:35 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @BroDrillard @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @synapsid @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya I gotta say, it's pretty wild how much goodwill you get by telling an old person "hey your computer's acting up? Just a minute, I'll be right over"
  The economy of trading favors can be powerful, and despite the overall shittiness of boomers they're awesome when they're from good old white working stock. Dudes will show up to wire your house for free just because you figured out how to set up their wifi
  
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- SettlerLife (settlerlife@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:37:45 JST SettlerLife
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @BroDrillard @synapsid @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya Kind of a rock and a hard place with that one. Trying to do groups when there is an army of shitlib NGO psychos and feds out to get you is going to require a lot of bullshit just to avoid everyone getting instantly fucked. Meanwhile on the other end most people are very estranged from anyone who isn't their direct family or worse have incredibly hostile relationships with them.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:44:03 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @SettlerLife @BroDrillard @synapsid @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya Of course, but why wouldn't they be clear that THEY can be trusted, too? That's what was so infuriating, trust is a 2-way street. Approaching the org, we should be given the same kind of caution that they take towards us.
  "in this group we keep each other's IRL IDs, jobs, and lives totally secret. We have consequences for leaking that info outside the brotherhood. We do not transmit or report any information about you other than that which you volunteer on {form}, and the national body will only know about a headcount. We have get-togethers with a harsh no-phones, no-electronics policy on occasion too, should you really want to speak freely one day. Our vetting policy excludes a lot of people with liabilities, so don't be too offended if you aren't accepted to the main cut, we have {auxiliary autist club} if you still want to hang out in that capacity. "
  Instead of that prospective members got "why do you care? Why do YOU deserve privacy?!?! We're the ones who have something to fear, here! Who CARES if you get doxed?!?"
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:58:52 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @BroDrillard @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @synapsid @RMIV @SettlerLife @Twoinchdestroya I can't say with absolute certainty that they went that way, I just found my basic questions were met with hostility that seemed excessive, and it gave me a bad instinct-level feeling so I never pursued it. THey may have had those rules in place for all I know, and they found my cautious attitude suspicious
  (but that kind of signaled that they didn't have smart/successful people asking to show up anyways.)
  
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- BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:58:53 JST BroDrillard
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  I never applied, but if that's how it was handled ... that's stupid.
  
  What you outlined in italics is the baseline anyone with anything to lose would require to join.
  
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- BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 15:11:58 JST BroDrillard
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  An org for the not-so-smart guys can be useful too. But then you'd need a different one with different rules for the actual high(er) value people.
  
  This is not the first time some form of "secret society" is organized. There are all kinds of historical lessons one could look at.
  
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- SettlerLife (settlerlife@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:52:52 JST SettlerLife
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  @BroDrillard @Jonaschuzzlewit @matty @synapsid @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya @WashedOutGundamPilot Issue is those weren't formed under a surveillance panopticon run by people who had a lot of time running their own secret societies and more importantly had a lot of money and connections to work with.
  
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- Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:52:52 JST Jonaschuzzlewit
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  These are great points. I still think hardly anything will change until more of us have nothing to lose.
  
  That time is coming like it or not.
  
  It also won't be as bad as people think in a few ways and maybe worse in others.
  
  Just sow seeds. I was in a podunk store yesterday at 8 pm on the way way back from a trip to get brake pads for a car I am selling and needed done right then walked into a store and an older biker was chatting with a young guy while he waited for the rain to let up... They were discussing aliens ruining the govt or the young guy was pitching it anyway.
  
  I checked out the kid was like sorry about my wild takes what do you think... I looked at them both and said.. It's definitely the jews and they are oppressing us as Whites and making it harder every day to have the freedom to speak..the most important thing we can do is take care of our own people . When I left they were discussing it... In a pretty based way...
  
  We just need to start getting people to collectively defy censorship. If we can speak we can be saved sooner
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Dec-2023 05:57:09 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @Jonaschuzzlewit @SettlerLife @BroDrillard @matty @synapsid @RMIV @Twoinchdestroya When I'm dealing with someone who seems trustworthy enough to break character, I try to soft-shoe it for the more trad boomers as
  "it sucks that every other team (don't say race, scares them off) knows how to play the game: Hire your family, look out for your own, embrace nepotism, build your own hangouts....but we've been lectured and brainwashed via all this cheesy media to think that we're somehow good people for kneecapping ourselves. Blacks, indians, jewish people have no issue with hiring their own and promoting their friends, breaking rules to protect each other. It's only the white folk who will suck their teeth and say "sorry man, but it's the law" while they tie the rope around your neck."
  "...if everyone else is allowed to look out for themselves, the least I can do is do it too. And everyone likes hanging out with white people anyways, I'm tired of pretending it's not the best, y'know? It is what it is, I'm not lying anymore"
  There's harder ways to go all-in but that tends to be the spiel when the guy seems like he's convertible and still slowly working out a lifetime of programming
  
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