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1. ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:29:01 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩
   interesting, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps are turning a ~788 foot long cargo ship into a drone carrier.
   (source: hisutton.com/Iran-IRGC-Drone-Carrier-Update.html)
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:30:13 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @ferrarilegends I’ve been curious about this….hoping it’s cheap at least. Not sure how it would hold up under a modern attack with that kind of backbone, but that’s no issue if you can buy 5 at once

   • Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum (rudolf_von_goldenbaum@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:39:13 JST Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum

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     @ferrarilegends If a Ford class carrier costs $13 billion, seems like somebody should try buying used cargo ships and launch VTOL planes off of them. Problem is I don't think there are any cheaper VTOL planes now, any nation buying a F35 will not be doing redneck shit like that.
   • ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:39:13 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩

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     @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum this and im assuming that the iranian drone carrier is going to be used for low-end threats since they'll be limited by the cargo ship's hull (speed, turning circle in the water, etc) and also by the fact that this is going to the IRGC rather than the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy
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   • ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:39:41 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot owing to it being based off a cargo ship's hull and machinery/powerplant, it'll be much more noisy and slow than the average warship, but as a floating airbase of drones to support IRGC activities against adversaries with little naval or air capability (like syrian or iraqi rebels) i can see it being an asset to them
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:41:22 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @ferrarilegends It’s probably the way to go, depending on your drones going forward. As long as you have an idea of what you want, it could be very handy. Imagine using these like the drone trucks, have 3 to a force embedded with your actual combat vessels, close enough to send out additional waves of drones for tasking by your own aircraft. The speed, damage compartmentalization, etc. would suck, but if they’re cheap and disposable, all you really want is something that can deliver ordnance from afar anyways.

     Would be interesting to wargame it

   • Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:42:32 JST Hoss Delgado

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     I can't wait to see it when its done. It's interesting to see what countries like Iran come up with when building military hardware. When you can't just throw a blank check at defense contractors like America can you have to get clever.
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   • ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:55:42 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩

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     @Hoss @WashedOutGundamPilot yeah, and Iran's interested in more than just drone ships, the IRI Navy has been working on a modern 5500-7500 ton destroyer based on the Loghman training ship called the Khalij E Fars (Persian Gulf) and the Negin (gemstone) frigate? using a catamaran hull design like the Independence-class LCS
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 11:55:42 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @ferrarilegends @Hoss It’s cool to see, but it does give faint vibes of the “pocket battleships” in the rearmament phase, and we know how THAT naval effort turned out. I think their willingness to go for cheap, bountiful drones would be key to holding their own for any length of time

   • Dr. Rupert, Doctor of Shitpoasting Studies (rupertvonripp@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:36:51 JST Dr. Rupert, Doctor of Shitpoasting Studies

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @ferrarilegends @Hoss The future is silent running drone carrier subs that submerge and run command for their deadly drone fleet. "Manned" cheap kamikaze machines to sink twenty billion dollar graft toys.
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   • n8⚡⚡ (n8@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:36:57 JST n8⚡⚡

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     @ferrarilegends @Hoss @WashedOutGundamPilot Thats a LOT of fukin missiles
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   • ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:41:53 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot as for ships of today being much larger than their counterparts decades ago, range requirements, future upgradeability, electronics, and so on are the primary reasons why frigates (which were usually well under the 4000-5000 ton mark until about the 70s-80s with the OHP and Type 23) are now starting to approach the weight and size of a Spruance or even an early Flight I Arleigh Burke. increased missile loads + advanced radars are necessitating larger ships with larger diesel-electric and/or gas turbine powerplants to power all the systems of a modern warship, on top of being designed to accommodate future technologies like lasers (which are still incredibly power hungry requiring IEP propulsion systems and IMO would better fit a nuclear powered ship for now)
   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:41:53 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
     Right, but Iran doesn't have those restrictions.
     
     If the US did adopt that approach they'd probably be able to moor spare fleets in a few out of the way places and fly in the crews. Kinda like they do with tanks on pre-positioning ships.
   • ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:41:53 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩

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     @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot iran could really do with better air defense combatants to protect their drone carriers though. an ideal ship for them in that case would be a very large corvette or a light frigate with as many SAMs as they can fit.
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   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:41:54 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
     Being honest... what modern ships can stand up to much of an attack? They don't carry any really heavy armour anymore, and apparently none of them can stop a serious missile barrage.
     
     I suspect the tide turned in favour of a dust rather than deathstar approach sometime in the 80s when advances in computing made cheap guided missiles practical.
     
     If this is the case then the only good reason for making a ship big is for range and possibly handling in heavy seas. The strategy should be to produce smaller ships packed with as many missiles and drones as possible.
   • ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:41:54 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩

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     • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
     @Eiregoat @WashedOutGundamPilot tbh the arleighs and ticos with their 92-96 and 122 VLS cells respectively can probably handle a barrage of anti-ship missiles (only limiting factors would be the speed of the missiles, the target tracking capability of the AEGIS radar system, the electronic countermeasures of both the ship and the incoming missiles, and the ECCM capability of the air defense missiles on the arleighs/ticos), but in a carrier's case its usually reliant on the fleet and its own aircraft itself as its own air defense.
   • ferrarilegends 🇸🇩 (ferrarilegends@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:43:56 JST ferrarilegends 🇸🇩

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     @n8 @Hoss @WashedOutGundamPilot 96 cells, i don't know how they'll fit it on a catamaran hull
   • Innsmouth_Noticer (innsmouth_mayor@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 12:43:56 JST Innsmouth_Noticer

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     @ferrarilegends @n8 @Hoss @WashedOutGundamPilot They also have their own diesel subs now.
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