@James_Dixon @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Now that I'm up on top of the soap box, let me do one more:

I frequently find myself arguing on the internet the cousin that faithful and fruitful old-type Christian congregations still exist in the US. Where the kingdom of God is preached and not the enlightenment. And the teenage boys are masculine, abs the v teenage girls are feminine, and the young women are nursing babies in the service and the fathers make the children behave and take care of the church business. Where people don't get divorced and worship is reverent and joyous.

And they exist in most, of not all , traditions: roman catholic, orthodox, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Anglican, at least. I'm not saying they are all equally correct about the right way to be Christian, I'm just saying they exist. And I have a hard time convincing people of this fact, because they are so rare that many have never seen one.

You know one thing all the ones I've seen have in common? Robust, vibrant congregational singing. Every single one. Because they are full of professional musicians? No. Because they value corporate worship, so they work at it. Without getting paid. (audible gasp)