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1. Why (Bloomed & Unhanced) (why@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:32:16 JST Why (Bloomed & Unhanced)
   NFTs as transferable game objects (weapons skins etc) will destroy any fun in game progression. It seems like it'd be nice to keep your unlocks from one cod to the next year's, but much of the game is in unlocking the new shit. If you start the new game with a million of your own cool skins already, there's no incentive to unlock and use the new ones.
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:32:15 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @why it's why it's never going to happen
     
     30 years old NFT shitters dumbasses literally think you're going to be able to go from game to game, collecting currency and selling it somehow and that it will be balanced in the slightest
     
     None of this shit is going to happen, it's going to be the same ol', but you might have the ability to sell your shit outside the game, making it into an even bigger cancer. Fuck, they might not even let you sell it
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:38:33 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @why Pretty much. "A couples of special in game skins/whatever are cross promotion" or "bonus in game item if you have x" is basically the best thing you can hope out of that which doesn't make it any less cancerous
     
     So basically, we now have item marketplaces, which has been bad for games
     
     We have battle passes now, which has been bad for games
     
     Imagine the Square Enix shitter CEO's dream come true "Play to earn" as he calls it. Imagine top 10 players in an event (I play some gatchas, you have to spend hundreds to thousands to be #1 in an event, I'm not even kidding) now earning NFTs theoretically worth money. This is going to be a special form of cancer upon games
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     @coolboymew @why cross-game NFTs could do interesting things but it would be like how you could have a playstation game that gave you a special item if it detected a save state from a different game on your save card. but yeah "you can carry your sword into completely different game and it will work the same" completely falls apart if you think about it for even a few seconds.
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   • coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified: (coldacid@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:38:52 JST coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified:

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     @Moon @coolboymew @why I remember a lot of games decades ago let you copy your characters from the previous game in the series, but they were also pretty tough (taking your Bard's Tale characters into BT2 didn't give you too much advantage, for example). Shit tier difficulties like games have these days make this untenable unless you de-level characters back to basics, at which point why bother copying them over? I see same thing for cross-game NFTs.

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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:40:21 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @why i agree with why about all the bad aspects of nfts in games. i think they could be used for some interesting things but i don't want to distract from the argument that the basic stuff shouldn't nft-ized because i think that's a correct argument
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   • coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified: (coldacid@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:42:34 JST coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified:

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     @coolboymew @Moon @why the only place game NFTs belong are in gatcha games and that's because they are already cancer to begin with (but shiny fun cancer, don't get me wrong)

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     @coldacid @Moon @why they have the power to make them way worse. Just imagine, the new character/card, it could be worth thousands!!!
     
     So they'll have more incentive to make the game way more predatory because fuckers are salivating at the thought to be the one to draw that one OP bullshit card he could sell for an obscene amount
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     @coldacid @Moon @why jesus, bruh
   • coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified: (coldacid@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:42:51 JST coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified:

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     @coolboymew @Moon @why I must have spent a couple thousand dollars on one waifu dress-up gatcha game on Android over the years, before I broke the addiction

   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:45:10 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @lebronjames75 @Moon @why
     
     >tie item to account (ubisoft, steam, epic games, whatever). game sequel asks "ayo gimme day ubisoft account cosmetics he got" from ubisoft, done.
     
     That's the thing, with NFT they don't have to do any bullshit API, item store, whatever to maintain. They just need to check the item ID from a public database or whatever. 100% easier
     
     But they'd probably still need permission in the end, even if the item connecting as nothing to do with what you get, so we're back to case 1
   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:45:11 JST l

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     @Moon @coolboymew @why all of these things are possible right now today without NFTs
     tie item to account (ubisoft, steam, epic games, whatever)
     game sequel asks "ayo gimme day ubisoft account cosmetics he got" from ubisoft, done.
     
     Blockchain NFTs cannot offer any game features that cant already be done without them, not one, except pocketing MORE money for the devs through a system that is exactly the same as the steam marketplace/inventory already is
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     @coldacid @Moon @why what gayme
   • coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified: (coldacid@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:45:22 JST coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified:

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     @coolboymew @Moon @why I am a man who provides for his waifus, what can I say

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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:46:50 JST Moon

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     @lebronjames75 @coolboymew @why the reason you can do some of these things in nfts and they will never happen without nfts is that nft is a neutral substrate to build on where the game can query assets while otherwise every game company would have to build a custom bridge to every other game company to recognize their stuff. so yes it is possible but it won't ever happen. also nfts can be traded independently of the company that issues them, built in game trading stores completely control who you and what you can buy and they take a huge cut already. if an nft system is implemented (providing it's not gimped in some way) then you get the money from trading an item and the game maker doesn't. this is a strong argument that the nft stuff is actually just a marketing sham because if they implemented it in a real and good way they would lose out big time compared to what they are doing now.
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   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:48:26 JST l

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     @coolboymew @Moon @why yeah ,everything loops back to "it doesnt matter at ALL to the end user because the gamedev has final say on everything"
     and lots of games are NOTORIOUS for having infinite X exploits, which probably could ruin the block chain again, and extra measures would have to be taken, and looping back to the "it doesnt matter and serves 0 or net negative purpose to the user compared to current practices"
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   • coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified: (coldacid@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:48:31 JST coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified:

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     @coolboymew @Moon @why Dream Girlfriend

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:48:54 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @coldacid @Moon @why oh yeah, I think I played that briefly because a friend was having fun with it. The UI was a hot fucking mess though
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:49:13 JST Moon

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     @lebronjames75 @coolboymew @why that is the reason why even though i think nfts in games could be good i'm not aggressive about defending it because the reality is it's a marketing sham to both gamers and crypto nerds and won't fulfill a single god damn promise to either one of those people, however it is actually implemented in the end.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:51:00 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Moon @lebronjames75 @why Those crypto nerds doesn't have 20 years of being deceived by game companies and making up wild fucking "What if" scenarios and none of them happening
     
     Fuck, we didn't even get online play on Wii VC games (except a very specific Street Fighter game) back on the Wii. It took until the goddamn Switch for it to work, and that ain't even demanding all that much I think
   • feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:51:39 JST feld

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     > but yeah "you can carry your sword into completely different game and it will work the same" completely falls apart if you think about it for even a few seconds.
     
     It should look the same and have the same name, but have different characteristics between games. Like a custom thing in CS:Go that you can also use in TF2 because they're both by Valve, so they know about the items as they issued them.
     
     As more and more games share the same engines it gets feasible that it could download the assets on the fly and use them
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     @feld @Moon @why
     
      >As more and more games share the same engines it gets feasible that it could download the assets on the fly and use them
     
     Yeesh, yeah, no, never happening. That's not how things works
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     @coolboymew @Moon @why I whaled some cycles for completionism and other times to get a particular item I thought looked good

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:52:07 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @coldacid @Moon @why Do you have final or good pics of your perfect waifu, at the very least?
   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:52:26 JST l

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     @Moon @coolboymew @why there is 0 worlds in all the parallel universes in the world, where a game dev would allow trading without a % cut from each blockchain trade. it will never happen. i do agree with you, were it true muh freedom, but financially this is an objectively unsound position from the dev's perspective, so i skip conceptualizing this ideal situation.
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:52:45 JST Moon

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     @feld @coolboymew @why right, but as @lebronjames75 mentioned it's an illusory freedom because the game dev has 100% control over how they represent that nft item. and the only interesting thing about nfts in the games is the freedom but it evaporates when you investigate it closer
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     @Moon @lebronjames75 @why
     
     deceived should be disappointed here
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:53:25 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @mrsaturday @Moon @why please explain
   • ☻ (mrsaturday@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:53:26 JST ☻

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     @coolboymew @Moon @why One look at Chocobo Racing GP demonstrates just how cancerous whatever Square's cooking up will be
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     @lebronjames75 @coolboymew @why we are in 100% agreement actually
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:55:02 JST Moon

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     @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why we have post editing now btw
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     @Moon @lebronjames75 @why I know but y'all saw it already
     
     What happened is that deceived sounds like "décevant/être déçu/désappointé" in french, which means to disappoint
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     @coolboymew @Moon @why fuck, I dunno

     I'm sure all my shit's still there but I'm too afraid to reinstall just in case I start blowing my cash again

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   • feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 00:57:14 JST feld

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     of course they have 100% control but we could also make mods to existing games that recognizes the unique assets that are owned in someone's wallet and do whatever we want with them too. All we need are the contract and token IDs and some knowledge about their rarity and original intent and then just go have fun with that to give players a new experience with their special items
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     @feld @Moon @lebronjames75 @why it's simply not happening, what you're describing is lala land levels of never happening. You can't simply just automatically grab assets and expect it to work and be balanced
     
     Even for skins, costumes, etc. you have massive complications going on unless the games all functions with the same style, same models, same expectations and they aren't
   • Rocket (rocket@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:01:26 JST Rocket

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     @coolboymew @Moon @lebronjames75 @why NFTs could be used for cool things in games. There is zero percent chance that a big game company will use NFTs for cool things. Disruptive innovation almost always comes from new/small companies, and it almost always starts by targeting under-served markets. The problem with most crypto companies/crypto nerds is that they are so focused on making money that they don't understand that their products have to fulfill an actual market need.
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     @feld @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why you and i are coming at it from a perspective of, "use this programming and network substrate to add features to your games" as it is one option to do that out of many but it exists today. you could do that, but as mentioned there are other tech already that could enable that if game makers wanted to do it, that wouldn't have the potentially really big downsides of monetizing and making tradeable every item in a bunch of games. like, potentially hyper-monetizing. most people just want to buy and MAYBE trade items, but as soon as it hits the blockchain now you have people creating basket of goods stablecoins on top of it and trading it on uniswap for yield, that is their video game not CoD skin and what those two groups want out of the game are drastrically in opposition
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     @coolboymew @Moon @why Square made a Chocobo Racing sequel that contained a freemium model and a season pass system. It then made it so all of your games were online in a tournament format so you were bound to lose to someone that paid more than you at some point. The free game gave you a base set of roller skates or something that were good for getting top 3 in the first round and losing in the second round, and any unlocks you did earn in the free game were locked behind a $60 premium purchase.
     They shut the servers down not too long ago. Chocobo Racing coming back should have been a bigger deal, but Square's greed ruined any momentum the game may have had.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:03:02 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @mrsaturday @Moon @why lmao that's really pathetic. At least rhythm games, the very base of it, works on pure skills which makes it so you can still be a new players and shit on a player with a higher score
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     This would be way better if it could be tied to a bitcoin LN account or any crypto wallet so login is super streamlined. You get a new game, scan the qr code which signs a msg confirming your account. All your game items are recorded here as well so you never have to worry about losing them. Easy peezy to sell items on a marketplace to
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   • l (lebronjames75@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:03:16 JST l

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     @DrBtc @Moon @coolboymew @why >log in to steam
     >launch RS siege
     >log in to ubisoft, please reenter your phone number, okay fine
     >log in to my coinbase bitcoin account
     >bitcoin account requires passport NFC chip verification and re picture proof because its a monetary asset so regulations fuck ubisoft and therefore me in the ass
     >okay i took a new picture of my passport and NFC scanned my passport through me 3 factor security on my phone
     >application denied, please also take a picture of your face while holding the passport next to your face
     >application approved
     >each game uses a different global wallet provider's services
     >later i wanna play call of duty MW4, i have to use Kraken ethereum account
     >kraken just blocks me for making too many trades in 5 minutes cause i wanted to batch sell my 50 unopened NFT loot crates i got in MW4
     heh, it's gaming time
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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:03:24 JST Moon

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     @feld @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why ok you can't trade nftss on uniswap but chances are a lot of common items would be completely fungible and you could have that item as a swappable token
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:07:47 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @feld @Moon @lebronjames75 @why No, it's simply never happening
     
     Let's take Pripara for an example. Arcade game with cards for costumes. Also ported to Switch
     
     How did they handle every characters being able to wear the same costumes? All characters are the same height and have the same basic body. So that means that the 2x something years old chara has the same body as the 10 years old character. This also means that an anime character that got a song, Chanko, can't be added in the game because she's fat and that would mean reworking 800 to a thousand costume item to make them work with her body
     
     Let's assume it works on the same engine as Overwatch, let's assume it's all NFT with downloadable assets. You have the model problem, the art style problem, the costume fitting problem, etc
     
     It's not simply not happening without the devs outright reworking the item to make it work, and why the fuck would they do that?
   • feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:07:48 JST feld

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     > and be balanced
     
     each game would have to implement what these unique rare assets can even do in their game. It can still be balanced
     
     > Even for skins, costumes, etc. you have massive complications going on unless the games all functions with the same style, same models, same expectations and they aren't
     
     There are tools out there that can render the assets/models for many different game engines just fine. I don't think it's the impossible task you imagine it to be.
   • coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified: (coldacid@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:07:56 JST coldacid 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 :verified:

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     @coolboymew @Moon @why oh hey I did find a few screenshots at least

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:08:00 JST cool_boy_mew

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   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:08:14 JST Moon

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     @lebronjames75 @DrBtc @coolboymew @why i conditionally favorite this post because this isn't how nft or token trading works at all on ethereum right now, it's basically almost frictionless, but as soon as it touches a game corporation this is exactly what's going to happen.
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     @Moon @DrBtc @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why I will pirate every game that has crypto transactions in it.
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     @Moon @feld @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why tbh many things are already possible with steamworkshop and mods. Sad thing is gacha games and mtx shit has more money for content development.
     
     Nft scams might actually fund good games.
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   • mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部) (moth_ball@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:08:47 JST mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)

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     @coolboymew @coldacid @Moon @why I doubt the shareholders will want to take a risk like this after Artifact happened (or didn't happen). Having the entire game rely on an NFT marketplace feels like something that would fly in the China+ market at most. It's probably easier to trick people into good ol' gachashit anyway.
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     @grillchen @feld @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why you could do a ton of cool decentralized things with games if they just were able to interact using open standards over HTTP.
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     @coolboymew @Moon @why thanks

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     @feld @Moon @lebronjames75 @why
     
     >because they get a % of each sale of the item? 😉
     
     No they don't, because it comes from another game
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     > and why the fuck would they do that?
     
     because they get a % of each sale of the item? 😉
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     I'm mostly talking about items shared between games made by the same studio.
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     @feld @Moon @lebronjames75 @why None of what you said previously connects to this
     
     But the same problem applies, they have to have the SAME EXACT properties for it to fit easily. And again, different characters have different sizes
     
     The devs will have to manually make the costume work. And why the fuck would they, as they can just make it you spend money for it again in this new game
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     @feld @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why they can alread do that in their own marketplaces without nft-izing everything, running their own marketplace is better in every way from a business perspective except the marketability of NFTs/blockchain. Before I changed jobs I was working at a place and we started getting more and more contracts with companie that wanted to integrate blockchain into their product and it was always a marketing thing and the product didn't need a blockchain at all, in fact it was bad but it got them investors.
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   • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:19:30 JST Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

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     @Moon @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why the point is it's solving a problem that doesn't exist in the first place and therefore nobody cares. It's like "let's make it so books use 3-ply paper for pages so that it's comfier to wipe your ass with book, and it will make book makers richer by selling toilet paper in book form" or the other way around - let's print books on toilet papers. Yes you already can read a book while shitting, yes you have your TP to wipe your ass, but imagine all the things people could print on TP!!
     
     >otherwise every game company would have to build a custom bridge to every other game company
     
     Here's a thing - SteamAPI exists, and there are games on steam that use steam inventory. Euro Truck Simulator 2 could potentially access steam inventory to check if I have a tf2 item to give me a custom paintjob for my truck. There's no need to make custom bridges, steam provides this API already, albeit it's centralized, however virtually nobody does this, even if you want to have a cross-promotion thing where one game has items based on other games it's just easier to add new items into game and give those away via a webpage that would check if you have other game/item. Not only it's technologically easier, it's also easy to understand and convey to user that your tf2 item is also useful in some other game that you might not even have.
     
     Remember - gamers want to game, fun is most important factor, and very, VERY small fraction of gamers also find fun in trading and speculation.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:20:17 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @hj @Moon @lebronjames75 @why Poor Suda51, apparently the first game was not popular in Japan and nobody came for an autograph event. That's why he's hanging around the PAX events usually
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     @hj @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why you can do that but again that means every game has to implement some other game company's api instead of just implementing one open api. and again i am agreeing with you, if it happened it wouldn't be done right so it's a moot point
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     @Moon @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @why one open api is steamapi, you could just turn that into a decentralized instead of centralized. Literally nothing would change.
     
     Even with one open api every game will have to implement support for every other game's items.
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     @coolboymew @Moon @lebronjames75 @why well, i think it's still better than whatever the fuck gameplay and progression is in Let it die
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     @hj @Moon @lebronjames75 @why I love the series, bought all of the games at launch
   • Proud owner of a potato sack :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:26:15 JST Proud owner of a potato sack :flag:

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     @coolboymew @Moon @lebronjames75 @why no more heroes? yeah it's good. Haven't tried third one yet, i heard pc port is shit (much like the rest).
     
     let it die looks nice, plays nice initially but in the long run it's pretty bad.
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     @hj @Moon @lebronjames75 @why 3 is really weird, it changes the gameplay more into some sort of enemy arena fight. I think 3 is waaaaay too meta in the humour, it ends up trying too hard
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     @hj @Moon @coolboymew @lebronjames75
     >gamers want to game, fun is most important factor
     this + my original point in the OP (nobody FUCKING reads the OP and go off on their own off topic tangent because everyone is fucking RETARDED)
     Unlocking things in game is fun
     battlepasses are fun because they unlock stuff
     >battlepass season 1 has cool red skin
     >play game a lot
     >unlock red skin
     >season 2 rolls around with cool blue skin
     >use now exclusive red skin that other players missed out on
     >see guy running around with s2 blue skin
     >ooh now i wanna unlock that too
     this is FUN
     
     >game releases
     >hook up NFT key
     >downloads all your $9000 monkey jpgs
     >play a match
     >other players are all running around with their own $9000 skins
     >no way to unlock these naturally
     >play game a lot to unlock game's cool red skin
     >skin's real value: $3
     >only poors and kids are using cool red skin
     >everyone is using >$5000 skins from 2 games ago
     this is NOT FUN
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:32:02 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @why @hj @Moon @lebronjames75
     
     Unlocking things in game is fun
     battlepasses are fun because they unlock stuff
     >battlepass season 1 has cool red skin
     >play game a lot
     >unlock red skin
     >season 2 rolls around with cool blue skin
     >use now exclusive red skin that other players missed out on
     >see guy running around with s2 blue skin
     >ooh now i wanna unlock that too
     this is FUN
     
     ^I disagree, stuff being tied to battle passes with monthly obligatory plays to do it is effing cancer. It ends up very quickly as an obligation rather than fun for the the sake of it
     
     >game releases
     >hook up NFT key
     >downloads all your $9000 monkey jpgs
     >play a match
     >other players are all running around with their own $9000 skins
     >no way to unlock these naturally
     >play game a lot to unlock game's cool red skin
     >skin's real value: $3
     >only poors and kids are using cool red skin
     >everyone is using >$5000 skins from 2 games ago
     this is NOT FUN
     
     ^ This is already not happening
     
     But as said, putting a monetary earning as a "pay to earn", just like the Square CEO is going on about, to games is going to be really, really bad
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     @why @Moon @coolboymew @lebronjames75 >play FIFA 2045
     >buy Christiano Ronaldo blockchain item (with free DNA sample (semen))
     >New year happens
     >Buy FIFA 2046
     >sorry you cannot use Christiano Ronaldo (FIFA 2045) in this game, if you want to keep that player, you can exchange Christiano Ronaldo (FIFA 2045) for Christiano Ronaldo (FIFA 2046) for a small fee
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   • Why (Bloomed & Unhanced) (why@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:32:17 JST Why (Bloomed & Unhanced)

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     @hj @Moon @coolboymew @lebronjames75 fuck ronaldo im playin as pickle rick
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Mar-2023 01:42:03 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @Amikke @hj @lebronjames75 @Moon @why I don't think he's proposing this, but it's a convenient example for something that already works
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     @hj @coolboymew @lebronjames75 @Moon @why are you legit proposing we let a single company (Valve) have the final authority over how sharing items and the marketplace works? I know Valve has been pretty chill, but Gaben is gonna die or retire at some point and it’s near certain that over time some asshole is gonna get their hands on Valve and ruin everything for everyone. It would be twice as bad if it was any other company.

     The biggest issue with such APIs is precisely that they are owned by an authority that therefore has way, waaay too much power. This, and Valve’s already hefty fees on Steam Marketplace is why Steam’s API isn’t used by many games and in fact it’s in gamers’ interest to keep it that way lest we usher in another gigantic near-monopoly that’s impossible to get out of due to the network effect.

     The whole point of blockchain technologies is that they are neutral. Upon creating NFTs, contracts, cryptocurrencies or whatever, the creator releases their direct control over them, without a way to change the rules whenever and however they feel like. It’s a direct upgrade over “traditional” DRM.

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     @coolboymew @Moon @hj @lebronjames75
     >an obligation rather than fun for the the sake of it
     it is pure FOMO, but the underlying game is usually balanced and fun. this is more than can be said of every gacha and moba, which seem to only generate stress for absolutely 0 fun.
     >already not happening
     true, but the NFT idealists want it to.
     >"play to earn"
     not even a new concept. loot boxes are already out of style, but rare drops like in Diablo/PoE already get sold for real money. only difference here is 1st party exchange
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     @why @Moon @hj @lebronjames75
     
     >it is pure FOMO, but the underlying game is usually balanced and fun
     Eh, no
     
     >not even a new concept. loot boxes are already out of style, but rare drops like in Diablo/PoE already get sold for real money. only difference here is 1st party exchange
     Yeah and it's about to get even worse