Notices by sim@shitposter.club, page 23
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@thatguyoverthere Damn. I hadn't thought about how something like this could impact the area. That doesn't seem to be a fix for it either.
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@thatguyoverthere Have you seen that modern audience they keep talking about yet?
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@thatguyoverthere That is a relief to know that it wasn't a recent film or series, especially knowing what has become of them now.
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@thatguyoverthere Yeah, I suspected that it was a fiction of it. I'm glad that it seems they didn't shy away from showing the crowding and social divisions too.
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"Rio de Janeiro documented its first slum in 1920 census. By the 1960s, over 33% of population of Rio lived in slums, 45% of Mexico City and Ankara, 65% of Algiers, 35% of Caracas, 25% of Lima and Santiago, 15% of Singapore. By 1980, in various cities and towns of Latin America alone, there were about 25,000 slums."
Break your back for growth and immigration in the slums.
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@thatguyoverthere I hadn't realised, it might be an interesting watch... maybe a glimpse into what life might have been like there.
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This is what constant growth looks like:
"Close under the Abbey of Westminster there lie concealed labyrinths of lanes and potty and alleys and slums, nests of ignorance, vice, depravity, and crime, as well as of squalor, wretchedness, and disease; whose atmosphere is typhus, whose ventilation is cholera; in which swarms of huge and almost countless population, nominally at least, Catholic; haunts of filth, which no sewage committee can reach – dark corners, which no lighting board can brighten."
-Cardinal Wiseman.
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"New York City is believed to have created the United States' first slum, named the Five Points in 1825, as it evolved into a large urban settlement. Five Points was named for a lake named Collect. which, by the late 1700s, was surrounded by slaughterhouses and tanneries which emptied their waste directly into its waters. Trash piled up as well and by the early 1800s the lake was filled up and dry. On this foundation was built Five Points, the United States' first slum. Five Points was occupied by successive waves of freed slaves, Irish, then Italian, then Chinese, immigrants. It housed the poor, rural people leaving farms for opportunity, and the persecuted people from Europe pouring into New York City. Bars, bordellos, squalid and lightless tenements lined its streets. Violence and crime were commonplace. Politicians and social elite discussed it with derision. Slums like Five Points triggered discussions of affordable housing and slum removal. As of the start of the 21st century, Five Points slum had been transformed into the Little Italy and Chinatown neighborhoods of New York City, through that city's campaign of massive urban renewal."
Did someone say growth and immigration?
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"After World War II, French people started mass migration from rural to urban areas of France. This demographic and economic trend rapidly raised rents of existing housing as well as expanded slums. French government passed laws to block increase in the rent of housing, which inadvertently made many housing projects unprofitable and increased slums."
This is what growth does.
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I still think that mastodon has been a net-negative to the fediverse, there are better metrics for success than bringing more people here too. Like keeping the spirit of the values here alive, being able to collaborate and creating a sense of community.
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@augustus What?
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I'd be surprised if moon doesn't already own programming socks to be honest.
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@hj @randomencounter @Moon @coolboymew Could also add more fedi references. Although if I have to emote, I won't be playing.
I wonder if you can play as a group?
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@hj @randomencounter @Moon @coolboymew I mean, it already has mewmew and an image of the icon. Even if mewmew changed that, it's still a fun throwback. Not everyone has to know it to play. But yeah, needing multiple people is fun.
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@thatguyoverthere I generally do bring the serious fun to SPC I must admit. Thank you, I do try!
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Thinking about it, when it comes to the praise of SPC, I do think that moon basically gets 99.9% of the praise or love. It is very high, I'm not sure how high to place it. I do think it should be high because he basically does the majority of the work keeping SPC going, funding it and being the billboard for SPC with others.
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @ChristiJunior @coolboymew How do you prevent fake death becoming plot armour? Or is that something that is better to lean into, especially when you can resurrect for example? Or you have a character who is invincible? I definitely try to avoid Mary Sues by making my characters have flaws they must overcome.
You are probably just the right person to speak to about this stuff. I haven't tried to get into the publishing industry yet, still trying to complete my novels and then we'll see. Where is a good place to study writing more indepth?
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @ChristiJunior @coolboymew I agree with you about the importance of death in life and that it should be in fiction. It can be therapeutic to write about it, perhaps that is a part of why it came into my fiction as well. I have tried to capture a portion of that feeling. Perhaps even the hard times we are in call for it as much as we want to have an escape. A way to help in processing that feeling that we experience, both as writers and readers. I feel like I go on the journey as a writer too. I don't think we speak of the writing journey in writing these hard scenes as much as we do as readers talking about how cruel it is for writers to make us go through it.
What does a banal fake death mean to you here? Is it about fake deaths in general, or more about the method of the death itself?
Thinking about character reactions really makes me think again about how characters would react when it comes to something like mistaken death.
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @ChristiJunior @coolboymew Now you mention it, I should probably focus more on the limitations that my characters have and putting them into uncomfortable situations where they are forced to grow from their experience. I wonder how this can relate to fake deaths?
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @ChristiJunior @coolboymew Now I do wonder if I have done this and wonder how to make it not shitty. But it is interesting to think about all the various ways that the topic of death has been covered in my story. Like this story will be covering it from every angle that I can think about, some of that is intentional but I don't think that I've fully realised that I'm doing this to the extent that I have. That is strange. I wonder if someone has written about death in fiction in detail as a theme and all the ways it can be done.
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