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1. sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:08:24 JST sim
   This is what constant growth looks like:
   
   "Close under the Abbey of Westminster there lie concealed labyrinths of lanes and potty and alleys and slums, nests of ignorance, vice, depravity, and crime, as well as of squalor, wretchedness, and disease; whose atmosphere is typhus, whose ventilation is cholera; in which swarms of huge and almost countless population, nominally at least, Catholic; haunts of filth, which no sewage committee can reach – dark corners, which no lighting board can brighten."
   -Cardinal Wiseman.
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:08:23 JST sim

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     "After World War II, French people started mass migration from rural to urban areas of France. This demographic and economic trend rapidly raised rents of existing housing as well as expanded slums. French government passed laws to block increase in the rent of housing, which inadvertently made many housing projects unprofitable and increased slums."
     
     This is what growth does.
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:08:23 JST sim

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     "New York City is believed to have created the United States' first slum, named the Five Points in 1825, as it evolved into a large urban settlement. Five Points was named for a lake named Collect. which, by the late 1700s, was surrounded by slaughterhouses and tanneries which emptied their waste directly into its waters. Trash piled up as well and by the early 1800s the lake was filled up and dry. On this foundation was built Five Points, the United States' first slum. Five Points was occupied by successive waves of freed slaves, Irish, then Italian, then Chinese, immigrants. It housed the poor, rural people leaving farms for opportunity, and the persecuted people from Europe pouring into New York City. Bars, bordellos, squalid and lightless tenements lined its streets. Violence and crime were commonplace. Politicians and social elite discussed it with derision. Slums like Five Points triggered discussions of affordable housing and slum removal. As of the start of the 21st century, Five Points slum had been transformed into the Little Italy and Chinatown neighborhoods of New York City, through that city's campaign of massive urban renewal."
     
     Did someone say growth and immigration?
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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:11:03 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @sim A pretty good movie about 5 points is Gangs of New York
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     @sim Yeah I mean it's a fiction, but it is well done IMO and you do get a sense of the crowding and social divisions.
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:13:14 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere I hadn't realised, it might be an interesting watch... maybe a glimpse into what life might have been like there.
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   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:14:15 JST sim

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     "Rio de Janeiro documented its first slum in 1920 census. By the 1960s, over 33% of population of Rio lived in slums, 45% of Mexico City and Ankara, 65% of Algiers, 35% of Caracas, 25% of Lima and Santiago, 15% of Singapore. By 1980, in various cities and towns of Latin America alone, there were about 25,000 slums."
     
     Break your back for growth and immigration in the slums.
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   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:15:37 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere Yeah, I suspected that it was a fiction of it. I'm glad that it seems they didn't shy away from showing the crowding and social divisions too.
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     @sim it came out in early 2000s, so a little bit before things started to go completely off the rails. There might even be naughty words 🙊
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     @sim https://eos.org/research-spotlights/the-looming-crisis-of-sinking-ground-in-mexico-city
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:18:13 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere That is a relief to know that it wasn't a recent film or series, especially knowing what has become of them now.
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     @sim truth
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:29:54 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere Have you seen that modern audience they keep talking about yet?
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     @sim not yet :smirk:
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:29:58 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere Damn. I hadn't thought about how something like this could impact the area. That doesn't seem to be a fix for it either.
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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:30:35 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @sim I bumped into this a couple years ago and it is something that kinda stuck in my brain. Pretty wild to think a whole city is sinking so quickly.
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:32:45 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @sim I don't think the younger generations have the attention span to sit through a movie, certainly not a shitty one
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:32:46 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere That's what I thought too. Maybe one day they will magically create it for themselves, perhaps with enough indoctrination of the younger generations...
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:32:52 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere Yeah, I can see how something like this can stick in your mind. Especially with it happening so quickly.
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   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 07:51:56 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere Yes, and then they will have to try and keep them away from earlier films so they don't realise how crap films made for a modern audience really are, how generic they make everything despite claiming to champion diversity.
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     @sim they'll have ruined them in crap remakes/rewrites so no one will want to see the original.
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     @sim you're welcome :sobbing:
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 08:09:44 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere Awh, now that is a despairing image to have!
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 08:31:11 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere Hopefully we can pass on good tastes for the next generations so we can avoid this.
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     @sim the baby was in the feed shop with me and got excited to see a seed rack. It brought such joy to my heart.
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     @sim yeah he has been learning stuff about planting and farming his whole life. I mention it because my hope is that his interests and tastes later in life will be influenced by the fun time he has over at Mimi and papa John's.
   • sim@shitposter.club's status on Thursday, 11-May-2023 09:01:14 JST sim

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     @thatguyoverthere That is a sweet story that it brought joy to you. It is the simple things.