Notices by Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club), page 5
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Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 15:24:38 JST 
Jeff Cliff
No it hasn't. It is the foundation of modern medicine.
> only morons and pharma shills now continue to believe in it
you REALLY need to get out of your filter bubble -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 15:24:16 JST
Jeff Cliff
see this is what I mean when i say you are *actually* against the germ theory of disease
Bacteria causes disease. There are plenty of bacteria that the koch postulates actually work with.
> when you are in a diseased state you may find higher concentration of certain types of bacteria
you have it ass-backwards
Please have someone culture you some c botulinum on some fresh lettuce or something
or find someone with strep A and get a swab -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 14:32:46 JST
Jeff Cliff
YOU switched to bacteria by linking to a 'germ theory is fake' video -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 14:32:44 JST
Jeff Cliff
> germ theory does not automatically mean bacteria
But it *does* mean bacteria. And if your 'sources' are saying germ theory is refuted, and you're linking me to them expecting me to watch it that is what you are trying to do.
But I notice you're not saying you would eat cultured C botulinum -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 14:32:42 JST
Jeff Cliff
Then it's not a 'final refutation of germ theory' -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 14:32:41 JST
Jeff Cliff
1) Have you ever, at any point in your life, been generally considered healthy?
around nov-2019 when i was going to the gym 6 days a week, on a vegetarian diet (incl a ~daily glass of red wine), biking to work/back(~10km), I felt like i was doing great
2) no of course not. gut bacteria is an important part of health
but there's different kinds of bacteria. some will fuck you up real good -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 14:32:40 JST
Jeff Cliff
> But even harmful bacteria can be kept in check with proper precautions, producing no symptoms in the host.
sure
> Not everyone who comes in contact with someone who has strep throat (from group A Streptococcus bacteria) gets it.
but if you draw a swab of one to the other, you can probably transfer it over unless you've had prior recent exposure -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 12:45:39 JST
Jeff Cliff
the end of windows nigh?
🙏 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/10/25/Microsoft_s_Windows_Division_is_Collapsing.shtml -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 12:45:38 JST
Jeff Cliff
microsoft will go out of business
the company who buys them (apple) will stop windows and cease to produce service packs
the whole of washington will burn to the ground from BLM-like riots
and there will STILL be people who use windows as their main driver to the bitter end -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:49 JST
Jeff Cliff
"first time or second time with covid" -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:47 JST
Jeff Cliff
Do you get your information from anywhere other than memes?
1) No one has the 'cognitive capacity' to be an expert in everything.
But you don't *need* to be an expert to have the basic understanding of what covid is, and what it does. ie that it is caused by a virus, which seems contentious in this thread only because 'thinking for yourself' always offers the possibility that you wind up being wrong about super basic things, like whether viruses exist.
2)
i) Masks do work, and no 'fauci leak' disproved that.
ii) china lied about numbers, and are continually hiding their numbers behind a 'mysterious illness'(ie it's covid), but couldn't fullly hide what happened when they undid their lockdowns
iii) there was no 'wuhan lab leak' and no fauci leaks proved this
iv) HCQ helps but isn't a silver bullet
v) fauci may, however, be a press junkie, IDGAF about fauci
vi) YOU are the ones politicizing covid
vii) that's a noun
3) so?
4) oh god you're one of those people
The virus wasn't a lab leak virus. The planning was being done *in case* a pandemic happened, which MANY people saw coming a mile away. I was talking about a possible pandemic in november 2019 on my podcast, even -- though I had the pathogen wrong(my guest & I were mostly talking about bubonic plague). People like Laurie Garrett even identified Wuhan as a potential hotspot THAT IS WHY THEY PUT A BSL3 LAB NEARBY because bat coronaviruses were a present and clear danger. -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:44 JST
Jeff Cliff
1) is not a n95.
2) depends on the mask but generally : @Ovpod walks through most of these in their stoon omnibus episode. All of them are misleading.
> size of viral particles
we've been through this one before : The viruses can travel in aerosols and long tangled chains that are long enough that they CAN get tangled in the masks -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:42 JST
Jeff Cliff
dude, the experiments in 1918 is 100 years ago, they've done PLENTY of experiments since on influenza
> t, I will wait for the long term (20 year) study
And at that point you'll demand a 40 year study. -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:38 JST
Jeff Cliff
it's fine to start with a biased assumption *if you test it by comparing what actually happens* -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:35 JST
Jeff Cliff
It proves that it, whatever it is, is infectious.
It proves that *something* exists which acts like an infectious influenza, and tests positive for influenza. At some point you have to start noticing that it acts like a duck, talks like a duck, etc it's a duck
> you are skipping the fundamental premise and jumping to how infectious are they
BECAUSE YOU SAID THERE WAS NO STUDIES SAYING IT WAS INFECTIOUS
that's why -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:11 JST
Jeff Cliff
1) whether something is a poison or not depends on the dose
the dose they give you of the vax is not
2) covid is different than the flu, but of course you fail to understand this since you don't even believe in viruses it's not feasible for you to understand how different families of viruses differ
3) *COVID* causes AIDS, not the vax -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:26:10 JST
Jeff Cliff
> flu and covid have the same symptoms, it's the flu
incorrect
> the vax is poison regardless of the dose, of course of you get more it will be more poisonous
also incorrect
also:
COVID causes myocarditis -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:25:56 JST
Jeff Cliff
This isn't true. Big pharma doesn't fund *everything* -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:25:53 JST
Jeff Cliff
yeah
because COVID IS A CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE
it DAMAGES YOUR CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM
also covid causes blood clots too -
Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Oct-2023 10:25:51 JST
Jeff Cliff
a MPDI garbage study did say that yes
like the problem is you seem to be new here, and seem to have been soaking up antivax propaganda for the past year or so without seeing how every single time these sorts of studies come up they are wrong.
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