Notices by Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com), page 6
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Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 16:40:05 JST 
Microchimera
@ArdainianRight @kf01 @mushroom_soup @BearButthole @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel @justnormalkorean Ex Cathedra is only one mechanism of infallibility. Ecumenical Councils are also infallible. The out normally given for Vatican II is that it claims at the beginning not to define new dogma, but then it goes on to contradict old dogmas, and it’s still an ecumenical council approved by two Popes, so it’s infallible.
The intention, of course, was to promote liberalism with as much plausible deniability as possible, but all the Popes and the Magisterium for the past half century have affirmed that Vatican II, in its entirety, is authoritative. I believe Pope Francis even made this explicit in an encyclical a couple years ago.
The Papist is bound to this council, which teaches heresy. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 15:31:40 JST
Microchimera
@ArdainianRight @kf01 @mushroom_soup @BearButthole @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel @justnormalkorean I will not disagree that all synods are fighting (and frankly, losing) the battle against modernism.
There is a key difference. Rome has made heresy an infallible dogma of the church that can never be reformed. You cannot accept Nostra Aetate and still be a Christian. Vatican II completely changed the paradigm when it comes to Rome.
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Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 14:53:06 JST
Microchimera
@ArdainianRight @kf01 @mushroom_soup @BearButthole @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel @justnormalkorean Lutherans believe in the real presence and some synods have apostolic succession, though we would argue that the actual faith matters more than a material succession of bishops.
If you have a valid lineage of bishops, but none of them are Christians, as we would say of Rome, it's a hallow claim to legitimacy. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 14:36:49 JST
Microchimera
@ArdainianRight @kf01 @mushroom_soup @BearButthole @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel @justnormalkorean If I were to make the Biblical argument, I would just be making the case for Substitutionary Atonement as the explicit teaching of Scripture, which necessarily refutes both doctrines. But I'm not going to do that, because these discussions have been rehashed online so many times that 1: It's boring, and 2: someone else is bound to have done it better than me.
Hebrews is a good place to start if you want to investigate yourself, particularly chapter 10 (it is addressing jewish custom, but the actual argument the author makes also applies against the medieval Roman doctrines.) You should read and internalize the Book of Hebrews in general. There's also the Psalms, 1 Corinthians, and probably other books, that reference our purification being a one time purchase accomplished by substitutionary righteousness, which renders a concept like Purgatory redundant.
These are two entirely different models of salvation, and only one can be true.
I'm not necessarily denying that there is a place in between death and the resting place of your soul. I'm personally agnostic on the question, but there's a clear tradition of such a place in the early Church Fathers, and we have no idea where it came from. It could go back to Christ and the Apostles, but those traditions don't look like Purgatory, they look a lot closer to the Eastern Orthodox tollhouses, which I can recommend a great book on, if you'd like.
You're forgiven for not being thoroughly literate on every Biblical topic. It's a dense book and you don't pick up on everything your first read under the best of circumstances. It's also far too easy to turn on some Youtube apologist and let them do the work for you, I've been guilty of that before, only to be proven embarrassingly wrong once I do my own analysis. I was actually baptized a Catholic because I got into the apologists, and my spiritual father told me that this was a valid way for a layperson to learn, which was horrid advice, though I generally respect the man. In the end, there is a right and a wrong answer to these questions, and the fate of our souls could depend on getting it right. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 13:53:16 JST
Microchimera
@ArdainianRight @kf01 @mushroom_soup @BearButthole @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel @justnormalkorean I don't feel like having this conversation, but I will answer this once, and I'm not going to reply if you try to argue it.
Firstly, the solas are slogans, not dogmas. You can't take them as exhaustive expositions of the orthodox faith, as Lutherans see it.
As for what the slogans mean:
Sola fide is a statement of monergism, which is in both the wisdom literature of the Old Testament, and the Epistles of the New Testament. Job is an entire book communicating the core claim behind sola fide.
Sola scriptura is not a positive claim that God can only preserve his religion through a book. It came from the observation that the church was corrupt in its proclamations. At times, it ran contrary to itself, but also to the very Scripture that was supposedly handed down from God, such is the case with indulgences and Purgatory. Since the "Tradition of the Church" was proven to be fallible, the only remaining source of infallibility that we know about is Scripture.
I hope this brief explanation was useful for understanding what the claims of Lutheranism are. Have a good night. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 13:33:07 JST
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@justnormalkorean @Victor_Emmanuel @kf01 @mushroom_soup @King_Noticer I think you’re confused. The most recent Pope they pray to is John Paul II, who is a canonized saint.
No RC who attended church would learn to pray to a living Pope. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 13:33:05 JST
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@justnormalkorean @kf01 @mushroom_soup @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel I don’t agree with the practice either way, I am exceptionally Lutheran. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 13:32:36 JST
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@justnormalkorean @kf01 @mushroom_soup @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel LCMS has lost all credibility this year, it sucks. I hope you will find a good parish. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 13:32:35 JST
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@BearButthole @justnormalkorean @kf01 @mushroom_soup @King_Noticer @Victor_Emmanuel Lutheranism is still the purest expression of historic Christian doctrine imo, but I can’t, in good faith, recommend anyone actually go to a Lutheran church in the United States. It’s a sad state of affairs. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 10:52:54 JST
Microchimera
@ssorayaa @idea_enjoyer @pressure @snugglefist Does your bf make you happy at all? -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 10:52:53 JST
Microchimera
@ssorayaa @pressure @snugglefist @idea_enjoyer Maybe you should focus more on him and your family. Bad things happen to everyone, but a lot of times, we can choose to be happy by dwelling on positive things. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 10:49:46 JST
Microchimera
@ssorayaa @snugglefist @pressure Rees is a pervert, he probably wants to drown in pee. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 10:49:45 JST
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Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 10:49:44 JST
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@idea_enjoyer @pressure @snugglefist @ssorayaa This has been going on for about a week. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 10:49:43 JST
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@idea_enjoyer @pressure @snugglefist @ssorayaa She was wrongly taken to the psych ward Saturday for screaming at the top of her lungs.
Sora is a very interesting individual. I think it’s sad the way Rees and others have treated her. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 10:49:23 JST
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@ssorayaa @pressure It would be interesting to know how to make them. I want to make one of some Muslim whore named Aria. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 01:10:16 JST
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@colonelj @Zerglingman @Godcast This isn't natural at all. Cultural myths are typically preserved for thousands of years.
It's breaking because the seams that hold modernity together are coming apart. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 00:49:05 JST
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@Godcast @Zerglingman Zoomers don’t even know what the Holocaust is, it’s not going to take much for them to deny it. You could probably convince them 9/11 wasn’t real.
It’s not a battle that’s going to be won tomorrow, but in 20 years, I don’t think anyone will take it seriously anymore. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 00:45:49 JST
Microchimera
@colonelj @Zerglingman @Godcast It’s not nearly as ubiquitous as the media would have you believe. Most Zoomers don’t know what the Holocaust is, and denial is on the rise.
It’s a long game. -
Microchimera (opphunter88@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 00:39:08 JST
Microchimera
@Godcast @Zerglingman It’s the founding myth of our civilization and it’s a lie.
That matters.
You can’t break the illusions of modernity without discrediting its genesis.
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