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Holocaust denial is right-wing talmudry
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@Godcast How does that figure
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@Zerglingman Our guys spend hours upon hours autistically studying useless minutae like how bricks absorb industrial gasses to get into arguments over things nobody but the already-indoctrinated care about. It's masturbation without pleasure or climax.
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@Godcast Fair enough.
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@Godcast @Zerglingman It’s the founding myth of our civilization and it’s a lie.
That matters.
You can’t break the illusions of modernity without discrediting its genesis.
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@Godcast @Zerglingman counterpoint: of the 5 million Jews in Europe before world war 2, 5.5 million of them received reparations from the German government and the other 6 million died
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@sapphire @Zerglingman And obsessing over the amount of ash and bone fragments left by a 1930s-era German crematory is going to fix that how, exactly?
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@Godcast @Zerglingman when you argue with Jews you can’t just state obvious facts, they ignore them.
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@Zerglingman @Godcast The assumption is that the powers that be used the holocaust as the ultimate cancellation of anything pro-White: "if you start with being for your people, then the next thing you know you'll be gassing jews."
Some people uncritically accept this framing from our opponents, and obsess over the holocaust as a totem that must be nullified in order to press forward. They miss that even if you disproved it and the whole world suddenly agreed it was a lie... nothing would change. Absolutely, literally nothing, because the framing is a decoy.
"You can't have self determination because holocaust" is a cover for "you can't have self determination because we told you so and we have power."
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@opphunter88 @Godcast @Zerglingman there is no feasible way of convincing most of the globe or the majority of whites the holobunga was fake.
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@colonelj @Zerglingman @Godcast It’s not nearly as ubiquitous as the media would have you believe. Most Zoomers don’t know what the Holocaust is, and denial is on the rise.
It’s a long game.
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@opphunter88 @Zerglingman Do you actually believe waving around fluid dynamics calculations is going to convince anyone of anything who isn't already on board?
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@opphunter88 @Zerglingman @colonelj @Godcast >most zoomers don't know what the holocaust is
DOUBT
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@kirby @colonelj @Godcast @opphunter88 Well, they think it's just a story.
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@Zerglingman @colonelj @opphunter88 @Godcast I'm sure they don't
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@kirby @opphunter88 @colonelj @Godcast No, really. You can go look at libtard teachers crying on reddit. They think the holocaust is as real as Santa Claus.
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@Godcast @Zerglingman Zoomers don’t even know what the Holocaust is, it’s not going to take much for them to deny it. You could probably convince them 9/11 wasn’t real.
It’s not a battle that’s going to be won tomorrow, but in 20 years, I don’t think anyone will take it seriously anymore.
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@sapphire @Zerglingman They ignore obscure facts, too.
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@Zerglingman @colonelj @opphunter88 @kirby @Godcast
SANTA IS FUCKING REAL YOU FUCKING RETARD
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@Zerglingman @colonelj @opphunter88 @Godcast I've seen more zoomers DENY the holocaust then say they think it's just a story
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@sysrq @opphunter88 @kirby @colonelj @Godcast Christ is Risen, amen!
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@opphunter88 @Zerglingman @Godcast it's almost the the irrelevance of the holocaust (via time) is a naturally occurring phenomenon that needs no help
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@opphunter88 @Zerglingman So they're already kind of on board and the question of how recently parts of Auschwitz were rebuilt by the Soviets is immaterial.
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@Zerglingman @sysrq @colonelj @opphunter88 @kirby He is Risen, indeed
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@Godcast @Zerglingman I’m not trying to convince them. I’m trying to convince the goys watching who might not believe the truth.
You’re never going to convince an Israeli that their founding myth is wrong. You will start the cattle thinking if you present enough math that doesn’t add up.
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@SuperLutheran @Zerglingman @Godcast The hall of cost is a spook!
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@pockethog @Godcast @SuperLutheran At the end of the hall of mirrors, I behold a golden door
I imagine all the beauty the other side must hold in store
So I quickly reach out my hand
To enter the next room in this promised land
I throw the giant door open wide
To continue my journey I step inside
But it slams shut behind me, and I'm back outside
The pouring rain welcomes me, into the arms of the coldest, blackest night...
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@pockethog @Zerglingman @Godcast Like, sure, but does your right to be for your own people rely on whether it happened?
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@sapphire @Zerglingman "yids are full of shit" is a better starting point than cookie math or other holocaust trivia.
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@Godcast @sapphire @Zerglingman yids diddle kids
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@givenup @sapphire @Godcast yiddle kiddle diddle?
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@Godcast @Zerglingman “yids are full of shit”
“That’s not what Fox News tells me you antisemite”
Good outreach buddy, great progress
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@sapphire @Godcast @Zerglingman
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@Godcast @sapphire @Zerglingman “Believing Jews lie is what lead to the holocaust” -average normie.
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@Godcast @opphunter88 @Zerglingman The number of people who don’t believe in the holocaust is bigger than it used to be. So kinda.
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@Victor_Emmanuel @Godcast @sapphire @Zerglingman *AVERAGE NORMIE OVER 30
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@nugger @sapphire @Godcast @Victor_Emmanuel \o/ nugger's here
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@sapphire @Zerglingman Anyone who still listens to fox News is beyond helping
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@doctorsex Pretty much. Like Super said elsewhere in the thread, if everyone woke up tomorrow and believed the holocaust was a lie, nothing would change. Support for Israel isn't predicated on the holocaust, nor is jewish power
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Definitely stretching the analogy here but there's almost a parallel to tikkun olam where people think if you get enough people to read germar rudolf the jews magically lose power
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@colonelj @Zerglingman @Godcast This isn't natural at all. Cultural myths are typically preserved for thousands of years.
It's breaking because the seams that hold modernity together are coming apart.
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@sapphire @Zerglingman @Godcast who cares about outreach, these are the people the Jews refer to as cattle
If they want to be good little animals let em lmao
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@Paultron @Godcast @sapphire How many people do you have to wield however many guns you have?
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@SuperLutheran @Zerglingman @Godcast It's more subtle I think, it's used to backstop this notion that the nazis were evil, and when hitler took power he cast some magic spell over everybody that turned them into brainwashed masses of authoritarian bootlickers that went along with the worst atrocity in history. It's one of those things that scares normal people at an almost unconscious level, because when they're given their holocaust indoctrination, they can't comprehend how people could do that. So it creates this underlying aversion in our people to using political power in any way that might benefit us.
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@Zerglingman @Godcast @sapphire exactly, and let God sort the TV watchers out
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@Paultron @sapphire @Godcast My point is that it's a lot easier to stockpile guns than people, but all those guns go to waste if you don't have enough people. You need both.
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@Zerglingman @Godcast @sapphire guns are generally irrelevant beyond a binary 1/0 you have em or you don't. No use getting bogged down in minutiae about their quality, the person holding it is far more important. And as we know true political and meaningful change never comes from the masses itself- by the time large numbers of people are involved all the important people have networked, planned and made their moves. This was true in the American, French and Bolshevik revolutions, was true in the western subsuming of civic social organs by secret societies in the 20th century, and is true now
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@opphunter88 @Zerglingman @Godcast no. the golems are just doing what they do.
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Profiting on the deaths of their people. The holocaust is big industry.
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@SuperLutheran @Zerglingman @Godcast No, you're spot on. I thought I was agreeing lol
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@Insomnolant Well said. An obsession with jews is far from the only rabbit hole I caution people from (e-drama, politics, dating market, etc), but there definitely is a type that's more succeptible to going down them
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@Godcast I think you're mistaking the cart for the horse. It's much more likely that people who are extremely unhappy with the current state of the world then look into why things are so shit, and find the Holocaust at the root of their own people's refusal to stand up to the Synagogue of Satan. They go into it with the belief that the "truth will set us free" and want to learn more so as to shine the light of truth upon the darkness.
It doesn't work, of course, because like you said, kikes get power from more than just the Holocaust and even if everyone immediately stopped believing it happened, things wouldn't be suddenly fixed. But I doubt a single person has ever been happy and then suddenly developed a hobby about Holocaust fun facts and became miserable as a result. I don't buy that.
That's not to say that I think Holocaust obsession is good for people. I don't think it is either. But we shouldn't confuse the cause with the symptom.
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@Godcast It's like the difference between basic Christian apologetics and autistic Catholic monastery word game navel-gazing.
The basics of Holocaust dismissal are very useful and beneficial in outreach. They've helped me with my own mom. The autistic combing over every retarded myth or the advanced chemistry of it all is much more masturbatory.
But just as some people can be brought to God by the autistic spergery, some can be freed of kike brainwash through the chemistry debunking.
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@Insomnolant My main contention is that obsessing over the holocaust is extremely unhealthy. Everyone I've ever met who's obsessed is not in a happy place. The autistic denial is rooted in an unhealthy intense hatred of jews and a desire to vanquish them, which is pointless because jewish power isn't derived solely from the holocaust. Further, as Super mentioned elsewhere, it's a completely wrong framing of ethnic power dynamics. Whites can't have ethnic solidarity because Jews say so, not because we did a heckin' genocide on them. The holocaust is just a smokescreen.
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@opphunter88 @Zerglingman @colonelj @Godcast denial is on the rise? More like the truth is on the rise and this ancient foreign intel grift finally gets to die
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@Godcast @Zerglingman The universe demands balance. Asking revisionists to deny their impulses is as productive as asking Shmuel to ease up his own. Or asking an equal but opposite reaction to just let this one action go because it’s exhausting to observe and nets nothing in the end whatsoever.
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