Notices by pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com), page 65
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 17:00:23 JST 
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@Maholmire Sure, there's no viewpoint censorship. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:57:11 JST
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@wjmaggos @PakkonenCT @jeremiah @Moon @amerika
> sure but some people are primarily here to be assholes.
Sure. As long as they do not cause me any trouble, that's their business. You cannot, in practical terms, prevent this kind of thing, you just mitigate it when it causes problems for you.
> I'm trying to keep those w unpopular opinions in the wider conversation, but get rid of the jerks.
As previously demonstrated, this is impossible and undesirable. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:54:15 JST
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@wjmaggos @jeremiah @Moon @amerika
> Im arguing for what @amerika calls decorum.
Sure, and that's fine if you are making a forum for civilized discussion. I am attending a party full of nerds and freaks and weird fuckers.
> imagine you like having parties with contentious convos, but some guy is just rude.
I remember that guy maybe 20 years ago that moved to San Francisco and sued this gay bar that he lived near for contributing to making the neighborhood shitty because dudes was suckin' dicks in the alley, right? And my thought was "Why the fuck did he move to San Francisco? They were there suckin' dicks in the alley before he showed up." I wouldn't want to live in a place where there were dudes suckin' dicks in the alley under my window, right, but I don't show up in a city where there are dudes suckin' dicks in alleys, buy a place overlooking an alley, and then demand they change what they are doing to accommodate me. He should have sued his realtor if he was gonna sue anyone. (If he was smart, he would have made lemonade: filming it, I imagine, could have paid his mortgage, but in either case, if he'd hung onto it until about ten years ago, he could have made a lot of money than he would have made from a frivolous lawsuit.)
At any rate, I decline to allow people that don't want to talk to me to dictate the rules under which I talk to other people. They don't get a vote, and they waived their right to even make a suggestion when they blocked FSE. Good riddance.
> one neighborhood sends about 80% assholes but 20% interesting/dissident views.
That's been quantified. It's about 4%, and the percentage is constant between "neighborhoods": the places that call *this* place an asshole neighborhood have about as many assholes as we do. Propinquity creates a bias in perception, this is common knowledge. In any case, it's better to instance-block the handful of people that your instance can't tolerate.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:49:57 JST
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@wjmaggos @Zerglingman @jeremiah @Moon You may be more familiar with the term "bozo filter". -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:29:57 JST
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@wjmaggos @jeremiah @Moon
> but people who jump into a thread to post it or lots of other abusive shit are just being assholes.
Sure. So? Assholes are assholes, you can't cure it. Unless you plan to put them all in a camp and fire up the ovens, they're going to be *somewhere*. Naturally they will gravitate to the places where they are free to follow their inclinations, and behavior that nobody wants to see is only permitted in very permissive places.
Some people like having the assholes around, anyway. *I* like having the assholes around. As long as nobody can get rid of them, the e-Gestapo isn't breathing down my neck about making dick jokes. Weirdos get painted with the "asshole" brush and anywhere that assholes are chased away eventually chases away the merely unpleasant: weirdos, freaks, anti-social nerds, hackers, criminals, pirates, every interesting person. (Find me a creative person that isn't a thought-criminal.)
Very permissive places also appeal to people that don't want some rules e-lawyer to threaten to narc on them while they are chilling on the internet and talking to their friends.
If the people you want to bring here are indispensable from your perspective and I'm disposable, then that's fine: my server exists without permission, the software I am writing exists without permission and will eliminate the need (or ability) to moderate this server (which will go from a node on this network to an amorphous cluster of nodes on this network),
> that doesn't change that this is a shitty experience for lots of people.
I'd rather they be here than Twitter, but if that means the place becomes friendly to them and unfriendly to me, they already have the Mall Internet, I only have this place. I'm not the only one, either: lots of people are here because this is the only tolerable place for them. "You should feel welcome nowhere so that extroverted normies can feel welcome everywhere!" Thank you, I decline to sacrifice the one place I like in order to gentrify it so that a bunch of lily-white teenagers with shitty politics can be happy *here*, too.
> it's functionally biased towards hearing more from cons and assholes. and calling yourselves victims.
I stand up a Pleroma server because Twitter is bullshit and fedi is nice. I expect adults to be able to handle themselves. If this creates political bias, I don't recall being conscripted or paid to eliminate political bias, I recall wanting to participate in a network that I thought was pretty cool. I don't get where the "calling yourselves victims" comes from. FSE is here so that I have a place to be and so that other people have a place to be. I care about freedom of speech and I do not care to sterilize anything: this is where you find the people that would be censored elsewhere and censoring them here is antithetical to the purpose. Without a hint of equivocation, I refuse to chop the balls off this place to make it more comfortable for the people that are responsible for fucking up the rest of the web. They've chased the interesting people out of everywhere else, here we have a relative paradise, fuck the people that would like to chase the interesting people out of here, too. They can go back to Snapchat or Tumblr or Facebook or Twitter or any of the other places where they are welcome because here it does not matter if I'm welcome or not: I can be here and am here. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:28:42 JST
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@Moon @jeremiah
> a person on a train
Man, I saw some old dude in a suit reading hard-core hentai on the train in Tokyo. You have to say "average person on an average train".
But then the feet guys, like...I mean, even if there's nothing pornographic, something pervy is clearly going on.
Even the courts basically throw up their hands and say "community standards!" when it comes to indecency/obscenity.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:24:27 JST
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@redneonglow @jeremiah @Moon
> Alt fedi
mastodonk dot social is alt-fedi, we're just fedi. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:19:27 JST
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@Moon @jeremiah
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 16:18:17 JST
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@jeremiah @wjmaggos @Moon
> Do we, or do we not want governance?
My answer to this will be presented in the form of a tarball of source code; this is all I have to say about that. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 15:03:03 JST
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@lolocaustianity @DJhardmous @GhostOfMoshe @Oblivia @charlie_root :bidenicecream::sf2vs::sharonsmug2: -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 15:02:41 JST
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@GhostOfMoshe @DJhardmous @Oblivia @charlie_root @lolocaustianity :arafatlol: -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 13:47:56 JST
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@jeremiah @Moon I mean, my position is that an attempt to centralize standards is antithetical to proper operation of the network.
If a former admin (familiar with the ins and outs of running one of these but not actively participating in administration) laid out something like that and encouraged some reasonable standards and listed instances that fit those standards, that would probably be the only way to do that kind of structure and get it right. However, from a practical perspective, either the seal of approval wouldn't matter, or it would matter and there would be a lot of arguing about whether some action constituted a violation of some principle set forth in the standards.
Or flip it the other direction: instances voluntarily put a note in the sidebar or something: "We endorse this set of rules." Anyone would be able to *claim* it so it'd be caveat user but it would be a way to signal "This is how we intend to run this place."
For my part, I think instances are not relevant and my code will speak for itself when I've got it out to the world. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 10:47:37 JST
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@laurel @slugbert @allison @charlie_root @kirby @m0xEE @sysrq :lookhowtheymassacredmyboy: -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 10:09:53 JST
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@charlie_root @kirby @sysrq
> This is why I tagged you,
I'm sensitive to abuses of Cunningham's Law ("The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."), I'd rather you just ask. I will ramble about this shit at anyone that gives me an opportunity.
> I should take a closer look at plan 9 someday,
It's a fun OS. This is supposed to be fun, Perlis said so. (Dijkstra did not, he said it was supposed to be cruel, but that is probably why Perlis is the one that got to be in the introduction to SICP.) St. Terry also said it's supposed to be fun.
> I've swallowed up alot of misinformation about it from internet weirdos.
It turns out that there are *only* weirdos on the internet.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:52:50 JST
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@dcc @RatPoster Ha, that's awesome. Have you seen any of the videos of the guy that did the original motion capture? He's pretty good. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:50:30 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@Suiseiseki @charlie_root :gnu_interjection: I respond to copypasta as if it were not copypasta. :itscalledwedoalittletrolling:
> Linux isn't a clone of an OS - it's a clone of a monolithic Unix kernel's.
The name that Linus Torvalds gave to the distribution of his kernel with gcc and the rest of the GNU userspace was "Linux" (after renaming it from "Freax").
> I have long waited for someone to write up a legitimate argument about why Linux is an OS without systemd, but maybe today is the day.
Well, at least I run it without systemd. That link, though, looks for CONFIG_DEFAULT_INIT,
> "open source"
In much the same way that I reject the hard-G pronunciation of "GNU", I refuse to use "FOSS", "FLOSS", "F/LOSS", etc. GNU vs. OSI is a spook, it's better to just ignore all of the terminology arguments. I can say I'm running an open-source operating system and the DB and the Balormo are open-source and then if you say that they are not open-source and not an operating system then that's fine.
> people *always* assume the former to mean source-available and the latter to mean; gratis, source-available
People assume a lot of things; it's better to focus effort on the people that do know what they are talking about.
> Please let the freedom flow
:eaglecry: I agree with this part completely. :fse: -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:34:44 JST
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@m0xEE @charlie_root @allison @kirby @sysrq Yeah, Charlie may have been unfairly maligned. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:28:39 JST
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@SoyMagnus @admin @Zerglingman @jeffcliff I told you to not gorespam from FSE. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 18:55:42 JST
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@charlie_root @sysrq @kirby
> I would recommend most programmers just get a fucking macbook and make closed software for mobile devices.
:neckbeard: What are you doing?
:senko: I am learning how to cook burgers.
:neckbeard: They're too thick. Your line cooks won't be able to get those out to the people in the drive-through fast enough.
:senko: I like them this way.
:neckbeard: You imbecile. You fucking idiot. Honestly I would recommend that most people only learn how to run a fast food chain.
> The FOSS ideology is great and all but it won't pay the bills.
We are right now using open-source software to talk to each other, and it runs on open-source OSs and it talks to open-source databases and we are using open-source browsers to interact with it. Fedi doesn't pay the bills but it serves a purpose and you are right now benefiting from the efforts of all of those people. My life is better because I can use these open-source tools. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 18:54:55 JST
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@charlie_root @kirby @sysrq
> just stating why it wasn't a good fit for my use cases.
You've got to know a thing before you evaluate it, but a rush to evaluate it is not useful either. "This is what people can do with this thing" is useful, and then there's taste (I do not like OSX or Windows, but may be obliged to use one or the other for something), but there's nothing that's a bad fit for every use case or nobody would use it.
I mean, you're doing music; you could do bytebeat on Plan 9, there's a port of ORCA, but I think it's not a media-focused OS in general, it's probably not a good fit for what you do. It *is* a good fit for some sysadmin stuff, even stuff like network dashboards on the monitor plugged into a broken Thinkpad. (See attached.)
> you have to understand, not everyone is on your level of computing and patience with these things.
Things you don't like, I have nothing to add except "I like that" or "I didn't like it but it grew on me or turned out to be an advantage" or "I also do not like it but the trade-off is worth it or I patched that behavior or something". But as far as what not everyone can do, I don't know, I don't think Plan 9 is a great OS for everyone, but the Linux disease where everything that doesn't run Linux is bad and wrong. Plan 9 works fine as *an* OS rather than the One True Only OS.
> video creator said that it's one system for many machines approach was antithetical to computer security,
I'm not sure where he got that idea, unless he means something broad about heterogenous networks (and is using it to make an argument...narrowing the choices). I don't think it's ever been the One System, but it's got a really nice security model that completely gives up on untenable things (no "root", physical access to a machine means physical access to the machine so you secure network resources instead of accounts on boxes, etc.). factotum gives you all kinds of cool shit and had locked down the auth service back when you had to invent that kind of thing to have it. A program (ssh, mail client, whatever) wishes to authenticate itself, it asks factotum, factotum either serves up auth data or pops up a box that gives the user the opportunity to type in a password, and you can selectively hide this from programs (infinitely malleable namespaces). If you don't have root on a Unix box, it's hard to hide ssh-agent from a program you run and nearly impossible to hide it from root, but on Plan 9, you can hide it from anyone except the person with physical access to the machine, and if you are using Plan 9 by PXE-booting a terminal and running from memory (thus being the only person with physical access to the machine), then the plaintext of your secstore doesn't even need to leave the machine and is gone when you log out of your terminal in the normal Plan 9 manner: you just turn the machine off. This is pretty cool.
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