@utopify_org @animeirl i would prefer a couch made from animals and plants to a couch made from petrochemicals

anyway, you have a midwit's understanding of what is sustainable. while there are many problems with modern industrial scale animal agriculture, livestock are a necessary part of maintaining soil health and modern industrial scale crop farming is far more destructive. you can't rely on the haber-bosch process forever. sooner or later, you run out of natural gas and need to till some manure into the soil.