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1. Wolffkran (wolffkran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 04:29:56 JST Wolffkran
   I still remember this one picture from my history textbook that depicted German people sleeping on literal ropes
   People were too broke to afford even bread, so how could they afford homes?
   So what they'd do is tie a rope between two points at around chest height, and then 5-6 people would just lie over that rope and sleep like that
   It was actually insane just how much Germany was blamed for WW1, and how much they were fucked in the ass. They were even denied basic human rights essentially
   The same human rights that the west loves to shout about from the rooftops and the same human rights that they were supposedly trying to defend in WW2
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 04:40:06 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Wolffkran I like chiding boomercons when they bring up "book burning", attacking their position like "well some ideas genuinely shouldn't exist in the world. When we took over nazi germany we had to shred and pulp every last hint of nazi writing and literature, to the point that illiterate GIs destroyed millions of totally unrelated, classic books just for looking like they were "nazi" because of the old gothic font."

     "It was so VITAL and IMPORTANT to forever eliminate nazi ideology from the world we committed cultural warcrimes against all mankind, and it's not even controversial to say so. Book burning is what good guys do"

     It's hard not to break but if you keep a straight face they'll sit there and say "see what the hell I can never tell if you're serious or not?"

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 04:45:14 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Wolffkran I unfortunately can't find the piece I remembered on this one, but it's interesting to me that there's now a whole body of journalistic talk about the era that makes it sound as if the americans were more hands-off than they used to.

     I totally believe the story as it was originally relayed, where apathetic, dumb GIs who just wanna go home can't tell the difference between a 400-year old copy the the bible in german or mein kampf, nor would they care to. They did the same thing in japan, grinding millions of treasures and heirlooms into beer cans when they demilitarized the civilians there. Good luck telling private Clayton Biggs, georgia negro, that the sword on your mantle is actually a 1,000-year-old piece only 2 generations removed from muramasa - he can't understand a whit, and if you piss him off you'll inflame his rape instincts

     It bothers me because the very same old guys who love collecting military history and whine about a sporterized garand don't give a shit about the widespread cultural destruction imposed by the allies. We really didn't give a shit about cultural protection until a bunch of NYC nerds (jews) and art collectors realized there were millions of dollars just sitting out there unprotected, leading to the modern narrative that "actually the US and britain cared WAY more about protecting cultural artifacts just watch the tom hanks movie!!!"

   • Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 04:47:55 JST Paultron-3030

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran reminds me of how they cry about paintings STOLEN by the nazis and how they always find it in a mine shaft or something
     
     like hmmm why would they put something with historical significance in a mine shaft during a time of mass indiscriminate allied carpet bombing, must be because they wanted to hide it away from the rightful jewish owners that badly
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 04:49:04 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Paultron @Wolffkran Exactly. "They STOLE it and put it on a U-boat for germany!!! They didn't give a shit about heritage!!!!"

     Yeah because people who REALLY care about art for art's sake leave it in crumbling, dilapidated ex-soviet rape fests. The whole thing of that monuments men movie bugs me, it's just another one of these gay postwar narratives rewriting history

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 04:53:32 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Wolffkran This is why I feel so bad for the japs - they had zero idea what they were dealing with. People accustomed to the ZOG grift world we inhabit would say "ah, I must hide this cultural treasure somewhere to be unearthed in better days"

     The poor japs, accustomed to honorable, upstanding stakeholders in their own government, assumed americans could be trusted to care for these objects. Instead the guy who accepted it probably put the sword behind the cabinet and forgot about it after shift change. If we're lucky, it was tossed in a duffel bag, and now sits rusting away in some philadelphia attic until some libshit finds it and either hands it for destruction (swords are illegal?!?! IDK just give it away) or it makes its way to ebay

   • Largo (largo@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:05:30 JST Largo

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran This thread makes me unbelievably angry. Our birth right, being our heritage and history, was turned to ash and rubble in the 1940s. Disgusting.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:07:54 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Largo @Wolffkran See? That's why it's fun to bring it up when boomercon patriots wax poetic about the inherent evil of "nazi book burnings"

     Everything in the dang country has relied on book burnings for a hundred years now. I didn't even clip the part in that article where postwar occupiers cancelled their enthusiasm for actual home inspections of libraries to ferret out 'nazi books' when the actual fighting men pointed out how difficult it would be going house to house to ban books