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nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 09:42:23 JST nugger
@burner @Rhodesian_YuKari @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran ITS LIKE HOW THERE ARE ONE FRANCHISE OR ONE GENRE FANS
LIKE POKEFAGS
ONLY PLAY POKEMON, HAVE TO BUY THE NEW ONE WHEN IT COMES OUT AND COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW ITS BAD
THESE PEOPLE WOULD NOT PLAY GOTHIC OR GODHAND OR WARCRAFT 3 BECAUSE THEY ONLY PLAY ONE KIND OF GAME AND THEY'RE MISSING OUT

ME AND ONE PIECE ITS LIKE A REVERSE SITUATION
I CAN CLEARLY SEE ITS GOOD
THERES A TON OF IT AND IT ONLY GETS BETTER AND MORE ONE PIECE-EY
THE FANBASE ARE BROS
THERE'S SO MUCH TO GAIN
BUT I JUST DON'T ENJOY IT AND IT MAKES ME UPSET

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- Paultron-3030 (paultron@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 09:42:49 JST Paultron-3030
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  @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran it's ok
  i don't like WH40k at all despite seeing it bears many similarities to things i like
  idk too self aware or something
  many dudes around me seem to like it and i have gathered more info on it by osmosis and my interest remains the same
  maybe some days i will psyop these guys into liking LotGH or cold war naval tactics as they try to get me to like bolter man or star war beam sabre guy
  it's good to have new things you're not familiar with so you can hear someone fanboy about it and not have it be retreading stuff you know
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 09:47:43 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari @Wolffkran I dislike warhammer more with each passing year. As a kid I used to laugh at the hobby shop's end cap, strewn with aged, unpopular, expensive looking crap from the franchise with a chuckle. We all thought it paled in comparison to the coolness of every other franchise's mechanical design - everything is just rounded, bubbly, bulky, and silly looking compared to more realistic stuff like gundam/robotech/star wars
  Just bugs me now that everyone who liked pretty much everything not-warhammer now pretends they loved it all along, and it's the coolest thing on earth, despite the fact its greatest strength is 40 years of dense lore to chew on.
  But mostly it's just because I think the brit company is pozzed, and people who think it's based are setting themselves up for embarrassment when they do their own "last Jedi".
  (and I just think the space marine designs are way less cool than people think they are)
  
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- Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies (albinomutant@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 10:49:50 JST Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari @Wolffkran I liked it a great deal back in the 90's. It was very fresh and aesthetically different, rooted in the culture of the 80's i gew up in. now it has become cliche
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 10:53:00 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari The lore has its own bright spots, I'm just very weary of saying "I don't like warhammer" and having to endure hours of "don't worry man I'll change your mind here lemme tell you about the recent black library release it's sooooooo cool"
  also the way the emperor was written is a crime. So many elements of the 40k franchise really highlight the fact that it wasn't ever expected to be this successful, they thought it would naturally peter out and disappear by 1994. Rotten foundations, like many sci fi franchises that got far more popular than ever imagined (like gundam, star trek)
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- Wolffkran (wolffkran@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 10:53:01 JST Wolffkran
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari Space marines are maybe the least interesting part of the lore.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:12:50 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari Emperor was written by obese, lifeless nerds who'd never experienced the depths of humanity. The whole idea he's a machine is cope because his character was heinously written and they can't do anything about it after the fact.
  But they're stuck with it forever, so they have to write themselves in circles with 28 BL novels to give it "depth" and have it make some kind of sense
  
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- Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:12:51 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari emperor should not be providing exposition. "machine. heal thyself." should be the last words coming out of his mouth.
  
  guard, daemon, inquisition and ganger interaction is far more "interesting" than space marine because they provide flavor for the setting. legion space marines are very one tone because they are brainwashed(literal) factory standards. the only reason there are bright spots in astartes lore is when a specific character is somehow different from the parent legion/chapter.
  
  deep lore is good because its fucking old. new writing like the siege of terra fucks it all up. what the fuck is erda, what the fuck is astarte.
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- samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:14:11 JST samjay ganges
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  @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari The backstory never should have been fleshed out. It should have been left vague with conflicting "accounts" of what happened. Few actual "quotes" or direct accounts, just legends and remnants of catastrophic battles.
  
  The only thing they have done right is never explaining what happened to the two lost legions.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:15:02 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @samjayganges @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari Yeah, would have been so much better. The whole thing of going back into the past was retarded. Wonder if it was all the result of authors wanting to write "the meat", instead of leaving it ethereal
  
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- samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:21:03 JST samjay ganges
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari Its not good for the setting either.
  
  What makes grimdark/horror work is wondering if there was ever hope at all. Did the Emperor even exist? Was there actually a Grand Crusade, or was it made up, and there was nothing more than one long decline with no reprieve.
  
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- Roadie Yukari :4chan: (rhodesian_yukari@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:21:10 JST Roadie Yukari :4chan:
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  @samjayganges @WashedOutGundamPilot @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner It's bullshit too how we keep having the discussion of how ironic it is the the big golden man with magic powers is an atheist that tried to destroy religion in the name of science and progress, only to be deified in the end.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:23:49 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @Rhodesian_YuKari @samjayganges @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner That's just about the only workable thing about him. I hate that they make this character have zero depth, when he should be THE most profoundly human, divine being in existence.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:26:08 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari okay I hit my warhammer limit I'm tapping out but here's a picture of those guys that were totally added organically out of artistic merit, and totally not added to the canon because they needed a more traditional asian mecha lineup of model kits to remain competitive with the rising number of gunpla crowding in on their shelf space
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- samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:26:17 JST samjay ganges
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  @Rhodesian_YuKari @WashedOutGundamPilot @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner Well the idea (retconned I'm sure) is that he was trying to rid humanity of emotion in order to starve the Chaos Gods of their power.
  
  In reality it is because the creators of WH are fedora atheists and wanted to dunk on fascists/monarchists/crusaders/etc but ended up making them look cool.
  
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:27:46 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @samjayganges @Rhodesian_YuKari @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner That's what's disgusting about it, it's so shallow and un-lived, the exact nerd shit you write at 19 yo without having experienced the depths of life.
  It's an obvious failure, an impossibility from the outset, instead of channeling them as a strength (like the lore ultimately does) he just....decided to eschew them. Gay and retarded
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- Roadie Yukari :4chan: (rhodesian_yukari@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:28:24 JST Roadie Yukari :4chan:
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner Didn't realize Blu made Tau propaganda lol
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- Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:30:01 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
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  @brimshae @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Paultron @Rhodesian_YuKari @Wolffkran @burner @nugger @samjayganges IDK I just opened a chat to find pinups to post and saw this one & the tau thingy
  
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- brimshae - now 90% less rambling, like going on about that one time that this guy.... (brimshae@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:30:02 JST brimshae - now 90% less rambling, like going on about that one time that this guy....
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @samjayganges @Rhodesian_YuKari @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner Is that an anime girl 1980s car phone?
  
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- samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:46:08 JST samjay ganges
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  @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari And honestly for Malcador, it should be someone else referencing something Malcador said, quoting from a lost book of his.
  
  Similar to real life where we have ancient books that reference even older books that no longer exist.
  
  Any documentation should not be entirely trustworthy. So for the example of Malcador's quotations, as the original text has been lost, it can't be ruled out that the quotes were simply made up...or that the book claiming to quote Malcador is actually a modern forgery...
  
  That's the sort of thing that keeps the setting fresh and mysterious.
  
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- Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:46:09 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot
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  @samjayganges @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari they plan to expand on lore focusing on a lore thread revolving around emperor becoming a fifth chaos entity.
  
  writes him like a mortal with human motives and failings. wtf.
  
  malcador should have been the sole mouth piece of the emperor, any other interaction or revelation should be done from a third person pespective. the only expection should be specific worldchanging events like the induction of mars, humbling of lorgar, magnus breaking into terra and fight on vengful spirit.
  
  the way horus and emps meet in dreamland with the desert and dead tree makes both of them look like fucking imbeciles.
  
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- samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:46:09 JST samjay ganges
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  @IAMAL_PHARIUS @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari Yeah that's what I mean, second hand accounts from Malcador, legends of the Emperor discovering his sons.
  
  I like many of the older stories of what occurred during the Crusade, but because I consider it to be legend and mostly made up. It is a retelling of the actual events after 10,000 years of playing the telephone game
  
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- Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:46:36 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @brimshae @Paultron @Rhodesian_YuKari @Wolffkran @burner @nugger @samjayganges 10 thousand xenos species. tau gets special treatment because 90s gundam crazy.
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  @IAMAL_PHARIUS @brimshae @Paultron @Rhodesian_YuKari @Wolffkran @burner @nugger @samjayganges Like I said, it's pure artistic merit and definitely NOT a marketing decision
  
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- Christmas Coon (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:47:11 JST Christmas Coon
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  @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner @Rhodesian_YuKari The blussy :booba:
  
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- Roadie Yukari :4chan: (rhodesian_yukari@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 11:47:16 JST Roadie Yukari :4chan:
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  @MeBigbrain @WashedOutGundamPilot @Wolffkran @Paultron @nugger @burner DO NOT STRAY FROM THE EMPEROR'S LIGHT, COON!
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