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Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:39:52 JST Moon

i'm not getting drafted for gamer war 2: fediblock boogaloo

i'm just warning you it's coming

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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:39:51 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Moon is this based on a current happening?
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:41:08 JST Moon
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  @coolboymew things are heating up
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:41:14 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Moon ???
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:49:57 JST Rusty Crab
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  @Moon @coolboymew based vagueposter
  
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- waka (wakarimasen@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:52:40 JST waka
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  @coolboymew @Moon The fire rises.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:53:29 JST Moon
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  @RustyCrab @coolboymew over on the fediblock side there's developing factions around the bad space, crazy hyperbole like "if you don't support it you are as bad as a nazi" I have seen multiple violent threats and major players refusigng to do anything about the threats. they're talking about getting into getting registrars to shut down names, contact isps. one side is calling people white racists the other side is calling people idpol-leveraging transphobes. I just see things starting to get hot beause the aggressors are never going to give up.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:54:30 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Moon @RustyCrab jesus christ
  
  Are0h being evil as usual
  
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- Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 27-Oct-2023 23:56:17 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew
  The correct move is to call them all faggots and get blocked by all of them.
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:02:32 JST Rusty Crab
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  @Moon @coolboymew @romin even nostr can't solve that because relays that don't block wrong thinkers will have the exact same issue. The problem is being a gigantic tyrannical faggot is just normal now. Beyond [insert fedpost here] the only long term solution is Total Clearnet Death. With AI moderation coming that may be unavoidable.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:02:33 JST Moon
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  @romin @RustyCrab @coolboymew yeah this is all the direct result of what I Would now call a major design flaw, servers.
  
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- ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:02:34 JST ロミンちゃん
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew revolver solves this
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:27:00 JST Moon
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin I don't care if they block us my issue is that if they operate without vocal opposition they are just going to become, formally, the "usable fediverse service" and eventually they are going to get the power to influence ISPs to cut you off, registrars to remove your DNS name. They've already talked about this.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:27:01 JST Pawlicker
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  @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin To add to this, I have no knowledge of whatever stupid shit is going over with the fediblockers, and I do not need to know.
  
  They're probably blocking this instance anyway, I know at least one blocklist has this instance, and quite frankly I could not care less. Why? Because a friend of mine was trying to get in the good graces of furry instances which if you know anything about furries, you know they love blocklists and hugboxes like crack rocks.
  
  Let me tell you, if a blocklister thinks you can be convinced, just like how groomers will swarm over any "egg" they can "hatch", they will harass the fuck out of you in DMs to fall in line, for example stop running Soapbox because Alex Gleason is a big meanie (this did happen btw).
  
  Shit like that is the kind of shit these people will demand from you, you will literally never win unless you are up to date on the latest causes, and the problem is even these people aren't up to date with their own causes (picrel, I'm sure you'll notice this trend).
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:27:02 JST Pawlicker
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  @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin this is why I don't bother trying to federate with these people too.
  
  It's better that they don't know you exist than trying to get in the good graces of internet pitbulls. This is also the #1 reason kf keeps having issues, imo Josh doesn't understand exactly what he got himself into at this point.
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:27:50 JST Rusty Crab
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  @Moon @PurpCat @coolboymew @romin frankly I think that stuff is inevitable even without their involvement. They are just stooges parroting the whims of the top level capitalists they claim to hate (I'm wording things politely). "Second internet" is coming and unavoidable.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:28:29 JST Moon
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin I was in discussion with some people to buy a TLD but it is very risky because they have a very expensive non-refundable registration fee, and a public input period where they would be convinced that the TLD is for "abuse". I think the solution is to get out from under domain names first then work on better ways to distrubte AP objects. People are doing work on this already, I think it's a better way forward.
  
  Mastodon won't support any of this, the effect would be two ActivityPub networks, the Mastodon network and the Fediverse.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:28:30 JST Pawlicker
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin They already have this power, I hope you have 300k in your crypto wallet you're willing to use instead of just being the online version of "shit or get off the pot" like Josh is.
  
  Did you know picrel won a $$$ lawsuit in Australia because the defendant didn't show up and was stupid enough to think oh it'll get thrown out you guys. Hence, shit or get off the pot.
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- Lelouche 🌸 (lelouchebag@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:33:16 JST Lelouche 🌸
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  @Moon Eh what for? I imagine they're eating themselves over the hamas thing
  
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- Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:33:22 JST Himbo Techbro
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  @Moon
  It's all so tiring. Especially watching people proudly do the shit I'm accused of, and nobody says a peep.
  Anything I even mention is taken at face value though with absolutely no context. Nuance for me, not for thee.
  Except nuance isn't even a part of it. People are outright making death threats and, as I was faulted for pointing out, it's A-OK as long as it's from and to "the right people"
  
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- iceloops.eth 🚬 :love_forever_cat: (1iceloops123@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:33:36 JST iceloops.eth 🚬 :love_forever_cat:
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  @Moon I want video game crash 2 because gamers are retarded
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:34:14 JST Rusty Crab
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  @Moon @coolboymew that's it you're going in the I Told You So Machine
  :niggagrab1: :niggaabyss: :niggagrab2:
  
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- sim@shitposter.club's status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:34:21 JST sim
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  @Moon Shikata ga nai.
  
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- smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:34:33 JST smug
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  lowercase i internet
  
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- kroner :blobcatsanta: (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:34:35 JST kroner :blobcatsanta:
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  Why don't we just make a new network protocol that has to be signed with "nigger" on every request to filter out the tyranical fags
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:34:50 JST Rusty Crab
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  @kroner @Moon @coolboymew @romin even a lot of people over here dont understand why the word nigger is so important. It's not the word itself or even what it means. The ability to say it is the dividing line between being an actual dissident and being a groveling bootlicker that will cave at every corporate whim.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:34:57 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Moon @PurpCat @RustyCrab @romin
  
  >Mastodon won't support any of this, the effect would be two ActivityPub networks, the Mastodon network and the Fediverse.
  
  I keep saying this, but a fragmented web is the best solution. Get people to browse again, get people to get on p2p network again, get people to... etc
  
  The consequences of "everyone ever: the websites" has been monumental, where retards gets with other retards and gets to be monumentally authoritarians about their bullshit, because it benefits the corps and probably massive astroturfing campaigns of all sorts
  
  There's a significant difference between an echochamber and just not being stuck with people you generally dislike. Corpo moderated hell websites are shit. I'm fucking tired of the retards getting into the anime fandom and arguing about Yaoyorozu's hero outfit for example. These people wouldn't be around in the old web days or would've been told to fuck off a long time ago by a mod or an admin. I talk to everyone who federates with us currently and there's basically never this kinda garbo arguments going on here
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:35:08 JST Pawlicker
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  @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin The truth is, it's all performative. The same person who will talk about how problematic Kiwi Farms is will then blow a fuse if you mention that he is a walking drama encyclopedia who links it when someone he doesn't like is in the group.
  
  They literally do not give a single shit what they claim because there are no bad tactics, just bad targets.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:35:23 JST Moon
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin I have money but not enough money to buy and operate a TLD by myself and I believe they would just keep the money and reject us.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:35:36 JST Moon
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin I am beginning to think that the nostr relay model with (slightly-modified) AP objects instead of shitty nostr objects, plus a DHT for storing long-lived public posts in a distributed way.
  
  Number one thing in my opinion is, from the beginning, maintaining a compliance suite so that there's no excuses for fucked up slightly incompatible implementations.
  
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- Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:35:44 JST Iska
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  @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co @Moon@shitposter.club @coolboymew@shitposter.club @romin@shitposter.club DHTs solve this
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:36:21 JST Moon
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  @NEETzsche @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin still centralized and vulnerable to "this is for abuse, goodbye"
  
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- NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:36:22 JST NEETzsche
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  I got into alternative DNS servers like OpenNIC which had tons of meme TLDs (such as .chan) that you can’t get from ICANN’s DNS structure.
  
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- PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:36:50 JST PunishedD
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew So the turnaround time from "this is bad, it'll be used against you someday" is down to 13 months.
  
  Lol, lmao
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:38:01 JST Machismo
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  @Moon @coolboymew @RustyCrab haha purity spiral go brrrrr
  
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- NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:38:13 JST NEETzsche
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  Excellent point. FediDNS when.
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:38:24 JST Rusty Crab
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  @coolboymew @PurpCat @Moon @romin even if you ignore the fact that the mastodon crowd is just made of genuinely awful people, the human race was never meant to throw everyone into one giant pot and force them to play nice.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:38:41 JST Machismo
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  @NEETzsche @romin @coolboymew @RustyCrab @PurpCat @Moon I think crypto domains have more potential.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:41:44 JST Hoss Delgado
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  The Internet only gained this problem after the smartphone opened the gates to the biggest mongoloids on the planet.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:42:11 JST Pawlicker
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  @RustyCrab @coolboymew @Moon @romin I don't think people understand either.
  
  The fedi's original idea came about in the early 2010s when people weren't doxing each other over drawing a character in a wrong manner according to a fandom, or similar shit like that. The internet felt more unified and the dream of an advanced tech utopia straight out of a 80s/90s cyberpunk book was alive.
  
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- white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:43:11 JST white_male
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  @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin Isn't the wrong think bubble large at this point? I mean large enough to have enough gravity to pull in people regardless?
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:43:11 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @white_male @RustyCrab @Moon @romin it's "large" but it's only going to self-destruct and basically even pissing people off/turning people away that would normally be into their bullshit
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:43:25 JST Rusty Crab
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  @PurpCat @Moon @coolboymew @romin yeah but that was only when nerds with similar interests were using the internet and before the mass propaganda campaigns started targeting them
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:44:03 JST Rusty Crab
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  @white_male @Moon @coolboymew @romin it literally takes one guy at the top to flip a switch to censor the entire thing. That's the problem we're talking about.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:44:25 JST Moon
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin the differene between the past and now is that in the past I think there was more of a shared values about protecting the infrastructure from political wrangling. there were exceptions, a lot of this fediblock stuff is similar to how mail servers were blocked for spam, except fediblock is a lot worse because it's for beliefs not "stop sending me dick pills advertisements" that literally everyone agreed nobody wants.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:45:18 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @Moon @PurpCat @RustyCrab @romin the issue is that the political pandora's box was opened, and fucking nothing changed for the better
  
  How to make it all normal again?
  
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- NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:45:35 JST NonPlayableClown
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  You know a couple of people talked to me about it.
  People I've never interacted before.
  Not sure how the hell my name got brought up on fediblock discussions, but yeah can confirm.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:46:41 JST Moon
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  @sapphire @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin my group in fact discussed this, we don't want to create another centralized DNS system where censorship can occur, and there are complications regarding this and TLS certificates.
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:46:42 JST sapphire
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  @Moon @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin you don't need to operate a tld by yourself you guys are overthinking this WAY too much.
  
  If you want to serve *.nigger but only to your based friends, just run DNS for it and have all your based friends point to it as the authoritative nameserver for that domain. The only reason you need permission from the Jews up top for a TLD is because you use their nameservers and certificate authorities. You can run an instance of opnsense on a VPS and have all of that available with minor configuration on the user side and a little less than minor config on the host side.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:46:47 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @white_male @RustyCrab @Moon @romin they're talking about deeper net infrastructure
  
  The net, domains, relay points, etc. technically is controlled by a few corps, and if these corps decides to put their fist down, you're simply fucked
  
  See the kiwifarm website debacle
  
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- white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:46:48 JST white_male
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  @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin What? I'm new to this, is there a nerve center to this? I always thought you can just federate willy nilly with anybody and start up a two dork network and maybe grow.
  
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- Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:47:22 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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  @Moon > not getting drafted
  
  you volunteering?
  
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- Chineseman 🟥 #nobot (iamal_pharius@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:48:04 JST Chineseman 🟥 #nobot
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  @IAMAL_PHARIUS @Moon tfw my white kitty is deaf :sobbing:
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:48:06 JST Pawlicker
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin Well this was kind of obvious during the GamerGate years but the left wing isn't exactly united either.
  
  They have a religious fervor, but will fracture among the slightest lines, such as trans issues (see JK Rowling and Glinner), a few times with Russia (Pepper Coyote AKA the "no cock like horse cock" guy, who was with a socialist group that wanted the disputed territories in Ukraine to be independent from Ukraine), and now with all the firings over the Gaza thing.
  
  When they run out of political enemies or it's their version of a slow news day they will go after each other. It's like a gambling addict, they need the dopamine hits from this.
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:49:15 JST Rusty Crab
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  @white_male @Moon @coolboymew @romin you should familiarize yourself with how hosting works, who controls DNS resolution and how ISPs can censor anyone they want st the drop of a hat. The entire internet (the physical wires that connect it) is centralized and controlled by a handful of people. The only reason tor exists is because it obfuscates traffic and makes it so you can't censor one connection without killing the whole internet.
  
  We on fedi are currently at the mercy of some random guy controlling a few vps companies who doesn't feel like doing anything about us.
  
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- Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:51:26 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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  @romin @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew when?
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:58:47 JST Rusty Crab
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  @white_male @Moon @coolboymew @romin do you know what's happening with kiwifarms right now? We're talking about all this because they are in this exact situation.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:58:47 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @RustyCrab @white_male @Moon @romin Kiwifarm right is is the ultimate test of all of this shit vs garbo political pressure
  
  The trans that campaigned against it IIRC literally paid journos for hit pieces and probably had an army of twitter bot to make herself seems important, because at some point, IIRC, when Elon Musk took over the popularity was just kinda suddenly gone
  
  So ultimately you had some people in some key important Internet infra positions that put their fist down based on utter fucking bullshit
  
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- white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:58:48 JST white_male
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  @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin Oh, you're talking ULTIMATE DOOM scenarios. Well yeah, they can turn the air off too.
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:59:02 JST sapphire
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  @Moon @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin again, this is only an option if you decide to tie yourself to a "real" TLD
  
  I could have .nigger working for myself with functional TLS with a self-signed CA in about 30 minutes and 25 of that would be figuring out where the menus are in opnsense compared to pfsense. Yes it still has the problem of a centralized CA but that's kinda how trust works unless you want to develop some retarded blockchain for it
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:59:03 JST sapphire
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  @Moon @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin the only complication is trusting the root cert for your domain, and if you trust the issuer all you have to do is install it on your devices. I did this locally for a while but it wasn't worth upkeeping since browsers make you renew the certs yearly and I was too lazy to set up ACME for it
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:59:03 JST Moon
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  @sapphire @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin one thing we discussed was a normal clearnet certificate for client frontend, but using self-signed certs with TOFU on the server to server communication.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 00:59:41 JST Moon
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  @sapphire @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin the big problem is if you want mobile support I don't think self signed even work anymore. unless you do an app and have a way to import a self signed cert, but people want browser and browser and mobile makes everything complicated.
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:00:17 JST sapphire
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  @Moon @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin you can import self signed CAs on mobile. There's an extra step to get it to work on iOS for security purposes but Android will just let you install it
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:00:17 JST Moon
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  @sapphire @PurpCat @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin I read somewhere they're cracking down on that but I don't know the details, you can do this somehow to mitm and reverse engineer apps and they don't like that.
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:00:31 JST Pawlicker
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  @RustyCrab @white_male @Moon @coolboymew @romin Of course, you also need to pull the right strings to get there. So here's the Prima Game Guide on internet censorship.
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- white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:00:32 JST white_male
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  @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin Yes, i do know. I hope he's got enough fight in him.
  You want to talk about OSI model too? We can go beyond, cancel bank accounts(i know, happened already). In the future they will turn off you power and water.
  
  Pray that the combined fallout from covid, ru-ua war and now kike wars will cleanse and revert some of the bullshit.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:01:04 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @white_male @Moon @romin yeah, see all of his writing from the horse's mouth himself, everything he wrote about the situation is interesting as fuck
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:01:18 JST Machismo
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  @sapphire @romin @coolboymew @RustyCrab @PurpCat @Moon I have tried this, it is an absolute bitch. I have an xposed module that's supposed to help, it doesn't.
  Fuck android, fake and gay os. I'm just gonna buy a linux fone, before it gets too pozzed.
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:02:41 JST sapphire
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  @Zerglingman @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin installing a self-signed certificate authority? unless it changed in the last android major version its literally just install it in settings, I did it for my old roommate so he could get TLS on my internal sites
  
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- Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:02:46 JST Rusty Crab
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  @coolboymew @white_male @Moon @romin yes, but like I say, they're just stooges. The screws are coming down from the government level and places like Blackrock. There is no such thing as grassroots power, even if the grassroots organizers have "big money". The most they can do is serve as snitches.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:03:11 JST Machismo
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  @sapphire @romin @coolboymew @RustyCrab @PurpCat @Moon They're not trusted as of like.... android 8 or something, at least for any app that's built specifically against that version of android and up.
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:03:36 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @RustyCrab @white_male @Moon @romin but there wouldn't be any problems if the snitches weren't there. I doubt anyone from Blackrock would know Kiwifarm otherwise. So it's all intended to make scare tactics that escalates up quickly
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:04:04 JST sapphire
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  @Zerglingman @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin oh I don't care about apps, I'm talking about just for browser shit
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:04:20 JST Machismo
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  @sapphire @romin @coolboymew @RustyCrab @PurpCat @Moon I don't think my browser trusts it either.
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:04:36 JST Machismo
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  @romin @coolboymew @RustyCrab @PurpCat @Moon @sapphire *which is probably because the browser is built for that API or later
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:06:53 JST Moon
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  @coolboymew @RustyCrab @romin @white_male its instructive in how they were shut down but don't want to have a kiwifarms specific discussion
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:07:21 JST Pawlicker
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  @coolboymew @RustyCrab @white_male @Moon @romin the other thing is that there's a lot of people of gender who have a literal holy war against that site, but also act as walking drama encyclopedias like in that gen x nostalgia show where the guy downloaded the computer to his brain. Like that but with ED/KF/LJ/Google Docs basically.
  
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- Max Mustermann (maxmustermann@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:09:31 JST Max Mustermann
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  @Moon You mean gamergays? Just hunker up and raise the cloak shields.
  
  @coolboymew @PurpCat @RustyCrab @romin
  Getting politics in check would be good start. For that we have to spread a world view that doesn't go apeshit and explode as soon it encounters post modernism.
  
  Sadly, the world is heated up so much right now, that we find ourselves on the brink of multiple civil wars and a nuclear war on top of it. I think its too late to start #goofytime 2.0. .
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:09:31 JST Pawlicker
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  @maxmustermann @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin >Getting politics in check would be good start. For that we have to spread a world view that doesn't go apeshit and explode as soon it encounters post modernism.
  
  what was the copypasta about kicking the door down and shitting on the rug again involving the Metroid Discord where lore discussion was banned?
  
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- cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:09:56 JST cool_boy_mew
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Moon @maxmustermann @romin the what now
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:13:37 JST Pawlicker
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:32:05 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @RustyCrab @kroner @Moon @coolboymew @romin it's not even about being a dissident in a lot of cases but about if you support free speech or aren't a little bitch
  
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:52:52 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @Hoss @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin it's a combination of factors imo. smartphones were the catalyst, but if it werent them, it would hae been something else
  
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- Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:59:23 JST Pawlicker
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  @mischievoustomato @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin early 2010s too
  
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:59:24 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin when did occupy wall street happened?
  
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 01:59:47 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin exactly. people were too unified, that threatens the elite -> make us fight each other -> we are here now
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:07:45 JST sapphire
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  @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin you know you can just buy a case with one built in for any phone right
  
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:07:46 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @Zerglingman @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew @romin @sapphire the only way a linux phone would wow me enough to let go of my gachas and ppsspp would be to have a physical slide out landscape keybboard
  
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:12:09 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @sapphire @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin really? i had no idea that was a thing
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:12:10 JST sapphire
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  @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin apparently it no longer is because Blackberry patent trolled
  
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- Captain Wet Beard (captain_wet_beard@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:12:18 JST Captain Wet Beard
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  @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin @sapphire The book burning the Nazis carried out were primarily books on gender shit from a sex institute in Waimar run by Jews.
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:12:20 JST sapphire
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  @Captain_Wet_Beard @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin Sir we're talking about phone cases
  
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- Captain Wet Beard (captain_wet_beard@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:12:24 JST Captain Wet Beard
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  @sapphire @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin Phone cases exist due to phones being made intentionally fragile. Idk who came up with that idea, but I can hazard a guess
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:12:28 JST sapphire
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  @Captain_Wet_Beard @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin idk mines made of titanium, I use a case because I'm a spastic and will lose my phone if its the same color as my desk
  
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- Captain Wet Beard (captain_wet_beard@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:12:28 JST Captain Wet Beard
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  @sapphire @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin Mine is made of glass and the back is all shattered, so I use a case to not cut my hand on it :/
  
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- Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:15:26 JST Christi Junior
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  @coolboymew @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Moon @romin Not attempting to criminalize dissenting opinions (including dissenting opinions on race, gender ideology etc) would be a start.
  
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:17:36 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @Captain_Wet_Beard @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin @sapphire you fucking tourist
  we are talking about phone cases *that come with slide out keyboards for phones*
  nigger that you are
  
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- Captain Wet Beard (captain_wet_beard@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:17:40 JST Captain Wet Beard
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  @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin @sapphire I was just trying to have a cozy conversation about Jews and trannies, but I have some thoughts in phone cases I guess. This conversation got weird while I was away lol.
  
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- Captain Wet Beard (captain_wet_beard@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:17:41 JST Captain Wet Beard
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  @sapphire @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin Turning them into soap is cozy
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:17:42 JST sapphire
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  @Captain_Wet_Beard @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin nothing about Jews and trannies are comfy
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:20:25 JST Hoss Delgado
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  Parents need a "use it or lose it" rule like copyright.
  
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- Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:20:26 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @sapphire @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin and BB doesn't even make phones anymore. fucking hell
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:21:18 JST sapphire
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  @Hoss @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin pretty sure trademark has that, not copyright, but then you'd have patent trolls cranking out one <item> per year and saying they have production
  
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- Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:21:33 JST Machismo
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  @sapphire @romin @mischievoustomato @coolboymew @RustyCrab @PurpCat @Moon @Hoss Basically, kill jews.
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:23:12 JST Hoss Delgado
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  Yeah I corrected myself right after I posted it. Copyright needs that rule too.
  
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- sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:25:10 JST sapphire
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  @Hoss @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @RustyCrab @Zerglingman @Moon @coolboymew @romin Copyright is slightly different because you're patenting an idea or piece of art, not an object you need to manufacture.
  
  If it were me, I'd abolish patents and keep copyright to the life of the rightsholder or until the rights holder no longer exercises any valid claim to the copyright
  
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- Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:41:51 JST Hoss Delgado
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  People forget shitlibs used to smugly say "just make your own social media" until people started to have the slightest crumb of success actually doing that, then the knives came out.
  
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- teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 02:41:52 JST teknomunk
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin
  
  If the servers are no longer a leverage point, they will go after ISPs and hosting services, just moving the problem around.
  
  You can't fix a political problem only using technical countermeasures. You have to use political pressure as well. Or violence, but that's most people's last resort.
  
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- silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 03:00:04 JST silverpill
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  @teknomunk @coolboymew @RustyCrab @romin @Moon Yes, I'm very much interested.
  My preferred solution to instance-level blocks is activity proxies that let you pretend like you're on a different domain. I'd like to build one, probably by re-using some code from Mitra.
  
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- teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 03:00:05 JST teknomunk
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin
  
  If you get a spec written up, please let me know. There are some other people, particularly @silverpill, that I think would be interested.
  
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- Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 03:00:06 JST Moon
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  @teknomunk @RustyCrab @coolboymew @romin interested in a dht system to hold posts.
  
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- silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 03:12:23 JST silverpill
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  @coolboymew @teknomunk @RustyCrab @romin @Moon Proxies can be used to solve all kinds of problems. You can use proxy to connect Tor instances and clearnet instances. Or you can use proxy to bridge software that uses different flavors of ActivityPub, like MastodonPub and a client-oriented ActivityPub described in FEP-ae97
  
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- silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 03:22:49 JST silverpill
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  @parker @coolboymew @teknomunk @RustyCrab @romin @Moon
  Here it is https://gitea.moe/lamp/activitypub-proxy
  There is also another project with a different goal: https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/idkfa
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- Parker Banks (parker@pl.psion.co)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 03:22:50 JST Parker Banks
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  Do you have the link to that activitypub proxy repo I've seen floating around before?
  
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- Maholmire (maholmire@crlf.ninja)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 03:46:09 JST Maholmire
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  We should round up a bunch of prepubescent children, both male and female then select two of each to fight in an arena against twelve others.
  
  @Nudhul @RustyCrab @Moon @coolboymew
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  @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew we need to bring back irl bloodsports and this shit would sort itself out
  
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- arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 06:00:38 JST arcanicanis
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  Federated platforms are far easier to build, develop for, divvy up moderation responsibilities, and finance rather than “truly decentralized” platforms which I believe pulls in far more risk (how much fun is it running a Tor exit node?), harder to fund (where would Tor/etc be without large universities and charities propping it up?), more content moderation issues (gl;hf dealing with CSAM if you build a ‘completely uncensorable, decentralized’ platform), and so on. At least utility cryptos (e.g Namecoin as mentioned) help solve the finance/commerce issue for some ‘truly decentralized’ ideas.
  I don’t think servers are so much the problem. The problem is we have such an adversarial internet backbone and core internet infrastructure now that’s actively trying to prevent routing around censorship intentionally.
  Despite my aforementioned concerns with the sustainability of the Tor network, I believe it’s a fairer option (or perhaps I2P, or whatever other overlay networks come about) to be hosting services on Tor/etc instead of clearnet.
  Speaking in context of onion services exclusively (and not about interop with clearnet):
  - Domain seizures on clearnet? So what, nobody can ‘seize’ your onion address on Tor, unless they legitimately have your private key.
  - ISP shuts you down? So what, move the server elsewhere, come back online, nothing with addressing or any configuration changes at all.
  - Stuck behind CGNAT and can’t self-host? So what, connect to the Tor network, and you can start hosting services on Tor/etc regardless of what your network topology is. Now everyone can self-host and spread out more.
  - Afraid of rogue CAs, Cloudflare, and other TLS MitM? So what, the Tor network provides encrypted tunneling that only terminates at the holder of the private key for the respective onion address, far simpler than involving a Certificate Authority or delegated trust system.
  I’m sure a response could probably be “well we tried, but nobody really bothers using an onion counterpart fedi server”, and honestly that’s because: a lot of fedi server software legitimately sucks for high-latency networks, especially for things that are heavily client-side rendered. All we need is some simple fedi server implementations that lean more on server-side rendering, and then the experience is far less miserable than waiting a literal minute or so for a Misskey profile to load (for example)
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  @realcaseyrollins @romin @Moon @RustyCrab @coolboymew two more weeks
  
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