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Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 22-Oct-2023 06:47:36 JST Moon @pwm @amerika @jeremiah @p @wjmaggos I agree with whoever said that there needs to be romper rooms and pvp rooms. nothing wrong with safe spaces, they are great and important, the problem is that it shouldn't be every space, it shouldn't even be the default and people pushing for that are basically dishonest (not talking about anybody here.) -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 22-Oct-2023 10:09:54 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @wjmaggos @pwm @amerika @jeremiah @Moon
> a fedi server isn't a room, it's a portal to the shared space composed of the servers that federate with it.
"Call it a banana if you want."
See clip from @tomjennings from the BBS documentary. This argument has happened before in the 80s, it was a very similar situation. The difference is that the BBS was going to be geographically locked: who can you dial without incurring long-distance charges? Here it is not, but my position is exactly the same as before: instances don't matter, it's a box. I'm not going to tell adults how to act, and if they're ham-fisted enough to block servers instead of bad accounts (which, again, per the cited research, is a very small number even on servers that you are falsely accusing), and then they decline to even do the admin the courtesy of telling them "This guy is causing problems, we're going to block your server" then I am fine without them.
> pvp rooms are fine
Well, you can't stop them from existing but they're a blight.
> just don't expect any other server, much less most other servers, to be fine federating with that.
I have zero expectations of neurotic strangers. The thing I would like them to stop doing is hurling accusations and libel at the server and at me personally, but I do not even expect that. But you and I are here talking to each other, so we can address one thing at least: even if you view a server as a constructed community, there are plenty of people that do not view servers this way. I am one such person. Communities are self-organizing entities and a community that you "build" is going to be as soulless as mass-produced tract housing. Servers are inert.
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william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Sunday, 22-Oct-2023 10:09:55 JST william.maggos @p @pwm @amerika @jeremiah @Moon
a fedi server isn't a room, it's a portal to the shared space composed of the servers that federate with it.
romper/pvp rooms are fine but that idea would demand a fully defederated server or something like dark fedi. as I said, I'm all for that. a place where anything goes. just don't expect any other server, much less most other servers, to be fine federating with that.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 22-Oct-2023 10:09:56 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: @Moon @amerika @jeremiah @pwm @wjmaggos I don't know, I think there are certain types that are incapable of understanding the concept of an inappropriate venue. You used to see that with religion a lot, you now see it with politics or PvP. "There's literally nothing more important than (the gospel of Jesus Christ|social justice|inequity|scary Jews|Ethan Ralph|the culture war|liberating pedophiles|executing pedophiles), and you are a terrible person for trying to stop me from demanding that it be inserted into every conversation."
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