> the best american cities are stilll worse than cities abroad though
Anywhere's like that if you go to the tourist hole. Like, I'd hate LA if all I saw was Hollywood and West LA, and that region is the containment zone for transplants and tourists. I think it's impossible to dislike San Diego. Chicago was great, but New York and SF were the worst places I've been, I'd end up in jail if I had to stay in either of those two places for long.
@animeirl@maija@sjw@allison@meso That is impossible. To dislike San Diego, you'd have to dislike Italian food, Japanese food, tacos, *and* beer. You'd have to dislike that none of the beaches make you leash your dog. You'd have to be upset that nobody hassles you. I actually smoked less while I was there. I don't think I'd been that relaxed in forever. You'd have to hate sunshine and puppies to hate that place.
Unless you mean the "Soviet brutalism but reimagined by Ikea" region where all the cube buildings are. Was not a fan.
> If you are a traditional southern teetotaler, then yeah, this is entirely reasonable.
That is not a reasonable thing to be, and even they can eat tacos and soba and gyoza and osso bucco and fusilli and Italian sausages and salami.
> disliking foreign food and beer is normal.
I'd say teetotalers are a really small minority down there, but if disliking foreign food were normal, Italy wouldn't even have tomatoes, Europe wouldn't have potatoes, those are New World foods. Europe got to the new world trying to find a way to purchase pepper to begin with.
It is the most reasonable thing to be if you were born in the South as a man.
>even they can eat
I mean, "can" and "likes to" are different things, right? Traditional men like eating the food typical of the place they came from, that's just normal.
"I like the food Mom/Grandma cooked and hate beer." That's normal. It's doubly normal if you're kinda traditional. If Mom/Grandma cooked southern-style food, then that means you're gonna like southern-style food.
@ceo_of_monoeye_dating@allison@animeirl@maija@meso@sjw "Normal" isn't subjective, it's quantifiable. People treat "not normal" as somehow bad and they want to argue when you say something is not normal but "normal" isn't subjective, it's not something you can argue. As my family was mostly teeotalers and my aunt married a teetotaling Southern Gentleman, and I lived in the Deep South a few years, I can say that both teetotaling and a strange aversion to unusual foods is not normal, or I would have met someone like that by now. It is normal to like the food you grew up with, but it is not normal to refuse to eat food you did not grow up with: I've met nobody like this past a certain age. It is not normal to be a teetotaler. The maximum size of the intersection of two sets is going to be, at most, the size of the smaller of the two sets: less normal.
There also seems, ironically, to be a new definition of the word "traditional". I've only heard people on the internet speak of tradition that way, it seems to be a modern affectation, a collection of odd positions people use to signify a mindset. It's got to be both unusual and slightly absurd or it wouldn't be useful as a signal, so none of the trad-whatever is "normal" in any sense.
It would be less reasonable if the "beer" wasn't just fizzy piss and you weren't forced to drink it in a white minority area, but since that's the case enjoyment just earns you a good goy award.
> since that's the case enjoyment just earns you a good goy award.
Nobody's winning any awards, it's just a nice town that's fine to be in. You have to shit on it with agitprop you pulled out of your ass because you are a retarded cunt and a fed. neuroticism.png
@p@sjw@maija@allison@animeirl@meso >It is normal to like the food you grew up with, but it is not normal to refuse to eat food you did not grow up with
I agree. I wasn't talking about hard refusal to eat food you didn't grow up with. I think it's normal to like the food you grew up with, it's normal to dislike foreign food, and that's what I thought we were talking about.
>It is not normal to be a teetotaler.
I disagree - it isn't the most common behavior, but it is well within normalcy to be a teetotaler. Aversion to alcohol is encouraged in western religions - it's normal.
Not even remotely, no. You find a person that doesn't like sushi, you find a person that thinks Thai food is too spicy or English food is bland, but near-zero people that dislike all foreign food. I'd say it's more unusual than vegetarianism.
> but it is well within normalcy to be a teetotaler.
Having spent some years as one myself, I'm acutely aware that it's very unusual.
> Aversion to alcohol is encouraged in western religions - it's normal.
Islam and a handful of American Protestant strains. Catholic monks *make* beer. Paul wrote to Timothy telling him calling complete abstention excessive and recommending he have a bit of wine as an analgesic for his stomach troubles.
Even if it were generally prohibited, though, the general prohibition on premarital sex is more commonly ignored than followed. The Bible takes pains on multiple occasions to point out that it's very rare for someone to follow its tenets.
I will say in the context of this thread that I personally like Mexican and Italian food - but I would not find it abnormal to dislike the list of foods p mentioned above.