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It’s said that before the arabic invasions, a lot of the Middle East had people that looked mostly Mediterranean. Ancient historians two thousand years ago note that many hebrews looked indistinguishable from Dorian Greeks, who tended to be lighter in skin color than other Greeks.
1700 year old mosaic showing Hebrew priests being met by Macedonian Greeks
RT: https://poa.st/objects/42bd9c0f-b8cf-48d3-81b8-719ed26f097c
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@Reluctant_Weeb @Griffith @AnFashSchizo @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend GRIFFITH MUCH LIKE ME IS A HUMAN SHAPED FARM ANIMAL
RAISED IN AN INDUSTRIAL FARM, HAVING NEVER SEEN THE STARS IN HIS LIFE
MOVING FROM FOOD TROUGH TO SLAUGHTERHOUSE, ANIMALS LIKE US EXIST IN A GRIND OF HIGHLY CONTROLLED ARTIFICIAL EXPERIENCE WITH VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF GREATER LIFE BEYOND
FOOD COMES FROM THE STORE, WATER COMES FROM THE TAP, LIGHT COMES ON WHEN I SWITCH IT ON
AND IT ALL COMES FROM MONEY AND MONEY COMES FROM BUSTING ASS IN ONE OF THE SHITTIEST JOB MARKETS IN HUMAN HISTORY
MEN BORN IN A MACHINE, DREAM OF MACHINES
WE ALL HAVE NO CONTROL OVER OUR LIVES AND WE DREAM OF EVERYTHING AS COGS AND LEVERS TO MOVE AROUND
MAYBE WE COULD BUILD A BETTER MACHINE TO "LIVE" IN
HUMANS ARE MACHINES, AND SOCIETY IS A MACHINE MADE OF MANY HUMANS, AND THE HUMAN MIND IS A MACHINE THATS CALLED PSYCHOLOGY
RELIGION MUST BE LIKE SOFTWARE THAT RUNS ON THE MACHINE
IF WE WANT TO BUILD A BETTER MACHINE WITH A COOLER MORE FUN PATH BETWEEN THE FEEDING TROUGH AND THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE, WE NEED THE HUMAN MACHINES TO ACT A CERTAIN WAY, WHICH MEANS PUTTING NEW SOFTWARE INTO THEIR MINDS
THE PROBLEM WITH ORGANIZING THE MOVEMENT AS A SOCIAL MACHINE MADE OUT OF MANY HUMAN MACHINES, IS THAT IT NEEDS ITS OWN SOFTWARE THAT'S A LEVEL ABOVE THE SOFTWARE OF A SINGLE MIND
IDEOLOGY, ORGANIZATION, ETHIC, MINDSET, TEAM SPIRIT
TEAM DAIMON SO TO SPEAK
PEOPLE END UP BEING MOVED BY IRRATIONAL FORCES AND ATTEMPTS TO SEE THEM AS RATIONAL MACHINES FAIL TO PRODUCE MOVEMENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT GET RESULTS
SO WHAT ARE THESE IRRATIONAL FORCES THAT MOVE HUMAN SOCIAL STRUCTURES, THESE MINDS NOT OF SINGLE PERSONS BUT OF MANY MEN AT ONCE
SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO, CERTAINLY
BUT BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE ABOVE A HUMAN MIND, TALK OF THESE SPIRITS TENDS TO FAIL IN THE RATIONAL DIMENSION -- IT IS JUST INSUFFICIENT, ITS LOWER ORDER THAN THE SUBJECT BEING DISCUSSED, -- AND SO DEVOLVES INTO AESTHETICS
TALK IS CHEAP, AND IT BUCKLES UNDER THE STRAIN LIKE A WRENCH FROM HARBOR FREIGHT
WITHOUT A SHARED THEOLOGICAL LANGUAGE, THERE CAN BE NO THEOLOGICAL ARGUMENTS
BUT THE TRUTH IS ONE, AND REALITY IS STILL ACCESSIBLE
ONCE I BROKE OFF AND WANDERED OUT OF THE FARM, AWAY FROM THE FOOD TROUGH
I WAS LIABLE TO STARVE AND DIE AND BE KILLED
I HAVE SLEPT IN MY CAR, IN THE CATTAILS AND RUSHES IN A BEDROLL OF BLUE TARP AND BLANKETS, IN PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS, ON TOP A PICNIC TABLE, AND IN DECORATIVE BUSHES BEHIND A WALMART
I ATE OUT OF DUMPSTERS AND DID VERY NOT TO CODE HANDYMAN WORK FOR FOOD AND CLOTHES AND ALL SORTS OF BULLSHIT
IT WAS UNPLEASANT AND DANGEROUS AND I DONT RECOMMEND GOING HOMELESS ON A LARK
AND ALTHOUGH IM YET TO SEE THE STARS ONCE IN MY LIFE -- ILL HAVE TO GO WAY FARTHER UP NORTH TO CLEAR THE LIGHT POLLUTION, -- I DID SEE THAT THE GRIND OF NORMALCY IS A SUBSET OF REALITY AND A VERY SPECIAL AND LIMITED CASE
ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS AND ACTUALLY IS VERY DIRTY AND GRIMY AND DILAPIDATED, THE MODERN NORMAL IS AN EXTREMELY SANITIZED AND CORDONED OFF VERSION OF REALITY
NIGGERS REALLY ARE LIKE COCKROACHES AND BEDBUGS IN THAT SENSE, THEY'RE PESTS OF CIVILIZATION AND DON'T LIVE LONG IN THE WILD
THERE ARE THINGS BIGGER THAN THE HUMAN MIND OUT THERE, THEY CAN BE EXPERIENCED EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN'T REALLY BE UNDERSTOOD ON OUR TERMS
THE VIEW OF RELIGION AS MERE PSYCHOLOGY OR SOME SORT OF AESTHETIC CODE FOR CULTURAL NORMS IS A PATHETIC LIE
CONFRONTED WITH REALITY AND THE NATURE OF HUMAN EXISTENCE, YOU CAN NO LONGER DENY IT
EITHER YOU WORK TO DRAW YOURSELF TOWARD THE INTENDED ROLE OF HUMANITY IN THE ORDER, OR YOU WORK TO DESTROY HUMAN EXISTENCE
IN WHATEVER CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE TO YOU -- DENIGRATE OTHERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ALONG THE WAY BUT AT THE VERY LEAST TORTURE AND ULTIMATELY DESTROY YOURSELF
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@Griffith @AnFashSchizo
>No one is making theological arguments at this point or having serious discussion
How can you be on fedi and say this?
@SuperSnekFriend @nugger @SuperLutheran
Here are the three accounts that come to mind. I see them engaging in serious theological debates quite often on here. There are probably others more appropriate that don't come to mind, but these guys do. Though there is a point in that it's almost impossible to have a serious discussion with an outsider because at that point rather than trying to get to truth it's about convincing them or an audience to your side, but that's true of all ideological topics. So you might not have good results if you engage with them being an outsider and all.
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The point of the Bible and/or the teachings of Jesus Christ is spiritual, not racial. People need to be able to separate these things when it’s appropriate to gain a better understanding of the world around them and better their own life. This is not to discredit understanding of racial differences or the benefit of racial nationalism, I’m simply pointing out that one should know that there are times specifically meant for strapping on the jack boots and times specifically for bearing the cross.
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@AnFashSchizo blow it out your ass all the best arguments were made years ago now it’s a social thing that acts as a shibboleth for right wingers so they can moralize against their opponents. People haven’t really believed in Christianity for years and the arguments have gotten worse. It’s just a group thing at this point but trying to justify it on the grounds of truth is annoying. Especially when it leads to cognitive dissonance.
No one is making theological arguments at this point or having serious discussion, it’s an “are you ingroup/outgroup” thing and that ironically sucks all the discussion that could be had out of it, because saying, “I don’t believe it,” is grounds for banishment, not discussion.
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@Federale Preserved fragments from the Dura-Europos synagogue (located in what is now Syria and used from 300 BCE - 257 AD)
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The Middle East has been a hot bed for ethnic replacement, violence and genocide for a long ass time in a very unique way compared to other parts of the world. The idea that there’s a lot of brown people there now so Jesus must have been brown is lazy historical reasoning. Not that it matters or that you can’t get anything from the Bible due to the realization that the Son of man wasn’t White but it’s abundantly clear that a lot of people pushing the “Jesus is brown thing” have an agenda to discredit and delegitimize White Christendom. It’s nearly undeniable
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@Reluctant_Weeb @Griffith @AnFashSchizo @SuperLutheran @SuperSnekFriend SORRY, NO THEOLOGICAL TREATISES FROM ME AS TO WHETHER CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS IS IMPUTED INFUSED OR IMPARTED UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE YOU ARE THE SAME PERSON YOU WERE SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN NOT A CELL IN YOUR BODY REMAINS FROM THAT TIME, THEY'VE ALL BEEN REPLACED SINCE