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@Rasterman boys will see a transforming robot and go "that is literally me" but girls cant relate to a character unless it is a carbon copy of themselves
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@Vidmastereon The two sexes have very different applications of "that is literally me," don't they? :smug:
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@Vidmastereon Yeah I learned about this LEGO study from Ethan Van Sciver as well. In fact he pretty much introduced it to the common zeitgeist discussing American comics and the problems with it. It also kinda relates to why just putting any old woman in charge of creative IPs just correlates is its destruction.
Boys pick up a Batman figurine, they immediately become Batman and do the things he does to stop the Joker. Girls pick up Batman and suddenly he's shopping for clothes and going to fashion shows like the girl wants to. This is why Barbie was the "girl toy" because she was so blank slate with so little background and history, the girl could project whatever personality she wanted onto Barbie. Sure, Barbie is pretty much canonized as a Hollywood fashionista, but does a little girl really care about that?
In contrast to women like Kathleen Kennedy, you have Amy Hennig (ex writer for The Last of Us) who was removed from her position because she was the wrong type of woman to represent women in the creative arts. She is why people love TLOU1 but not TLOU2.
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@Cayhr @Rasterman There was something I read where after Lego repeatedly failed to appeal to girls they conducted a study that showed how radically different the two sexes play with toys
in short boys want to be batman girls want barbie to be like her
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@Azur_Fenix Well, our opinions of the TLOU series aside, the point of alluding to the study and women's involvement in the creative media industry is that the industry forgot to check the minds that were gaining control over IPs. For so long it was men that drove the industry, and they sought to simply have an influx of women to "fix it," not realizing it takes a certain kind of mentality to create good stories, art, and characters.
So... you have Kathleen Kennedy who destroyed Star Wars, then the replacement of Amy Hennig which caused the destruction of TLOU. I'm not a fan of either, but... the results are clear.
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@Cayhr @Vidmastereon @Rasterman mean while I think last of use, both of them is overrated garbage.
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@Cayhr @Azur_Fenix @Rasterman I think TLOU was drukman being a jew
Joel was a strong White man who did everything to protect Elie
you cant have that kind of character anymore
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@Cayhr @Rasterman @VidMasterEon I will agree on that. Sorry for the derail. I'm in absolute opinion that females, with EXTREME exceptions, should never be allowed to write, direct, or be a creative force in something that is marketed to men as entertainment.
I will admit there ARE some females that a mental mutants that are capable of writing good stories for a male audience, but they are not the rule but the fair few and extreme exception. Females straight up as a whole massively do not understand men and think we are like them. We aren't. An further more females even though they say they want men like them, ultimately HATE men that think or act as they do.
At this point there needs to be a hard segregation. Females stay in their god damn lane, and the fuck out of mens. Any man inviting them in, gets his ass beat and kicked until he dies or learns his lesson. NO FUCKING SIMPING.
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@Azur_Fenix @Cayhr @Rasterman A decent amount of mangaka make me reject that sentiment
Especially the h doujin ones
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@VidMasterEon Haha well, the nuance is in your reply. Mangaka. The creative women over there are really something else, totally unlike here in the west. To use Japanese media as the example (since we all enjoy JP creative works), Minami Kiyota has a composer role for a bunch of our favorites, including Xenoblade, Final Fantasy, and even some Smash Bros songs. Eryth Sea was composed by a woman. Then there are female mangaka, like Rumiko Takahashi who made Inuyasha, a highly influential serialization in media history.
The "female talent" in the west pales in comparison to the female talent in the east, but I might be biased because here in the west we mainly make fun of "creative minds" like Zoe Quinn and Kathleen Kennedy who can only destroy. :kekw:
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