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1. Terry (terry@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:05:30 JST Terry
   wait is this actually a Stryker? did a stryker get taken out by an amazon drone?
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   • Some German Guy (some_german_guy@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:05:28 JST Some German Guy

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     @Terry interesting.
     so they figured out a shaped charge thats light enough to be carried by quad copter.
     funny how fast things are changing.
     at this point it really would not surprise me if infantry groups will soon have dedicated anti drone shotgunners as part of the squad.
   • MaleGoddess :verified: (malegoddess@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:05:28 JST MaleGoddess :verified:

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     The Lancet drone is fixed wing I believe.
     Still a drone, probably cost a few thousand to make, maybe even less.
     Crazy how much the US military spent to make javelin missiles,
     $178,000 with launcher, and $78,000 per missile,
     and here's Russia popping US military vehicles with a drone that probably cost less than $2,000, and I don't know how much pg-7vl costs, but even if one cost $10,000, it's still a fraction of the price of a fucking javelin.
     Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this.
   • Some German Guy (some_german_guy@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:05:29 JST Some German Guy

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     @Terry sorry man, cant see it good enough to identify.
   • Terry (terry@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:05:29 JST Terry

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     @Some_German_Guy how about now?
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   • MaleGoddess :verified: (malegoddess@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:24:01 JST MaleGoddess :verified:

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     Yeah, this isn't secret stuff, they're pretty open about wasting billions on bullshit like this.
     When I was in, the purpose of the robot was to be thrown into a building, but this shit look like it'd break if it got stepped on wrong.
     
     A $500 Amazon drone with $200 worth of explosives would be better than this shit.
     This is the reason the US out spends the next four countries militaries combined. That money doesn't go to better training.
     
     If we get into a war with a near peer enemy, the US is fucked.
     
     archive.fo/nTJPy
     
     military.com/kitup/2019/03/15/backpack-sized-robots-their-way-army-units.html
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:24:01 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @MaleGoddess @deprecated_ii @Some_German_Guy @Terry @Tripp I’ve come to think of the diff. between our stuff is cash versus credit, built vs. bought. The american way is to give a gigantic fantasy sum with an idealized end point, a multi-year process that hopefully results in something kinda real.

     Russkies don’t have that blank check power, so their design is more grounded and real-world-ready out the gate. They have to build their track car, where we just order whatever sounds coolest online and leave it up to the cheapest contractor we can find to slap it all together and test it out on race day.

   • MaleGoddess :verified: (malegoddess@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:24:02 JST MaleGoddess :verified:

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     You see a lot of overspending in the US military.
     I was part of the test brigade for that "Land Warrior" system.
     
     Basically put a cpu and a GPS on the back of every soldier, and commanders could micromanage far from the battlefield.
     It was proposed in the 1970s, and rejected by every administration until W Bush.
     
     We never really hit the testing part because of delays and setbacks, and eventually we were no longer the test brigade.
     
     So part of the Land Warrior system was this robot. It's purpose was to clear buildings and rooms before the infantry. It was supposed to be carried on a soldier's back, and be able to be thrown into an upstairs window and clear from top to bottom.
     They kept adding stuff and "fixing" shit to the point the robot was too heavy to be carried by an individual soldier. Then it got to the point where you needed a heavy transport with a fucking crane arm to lower it.
     Another thing was some stupid drone shaped like a barrel. They made it too heavy to fly.
     Billions spent.
     
     Then you got Russia doing this shit better than the US for a fraction of the cost.
   • d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:24:02 JST d

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     @MaleGoddess @Tripp @Some_German_Guy @Terry >So part of the Land Warrior system was this robot. It's purpose was to clear buildings and rooms before the infantry. It was supposed to be carried on a soldier's back, and be able to be thrown into an upstairs window and clear from top to bottom.
     
     lol never heard of that
     
     those niggers watched too much star trek
   • Graf von Tripp (tripp@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:24:03 JST Graf von Tripp

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     @MaleGoddess @Some_German_Guy @Terry Under 500 for a rocket considering the launcher is 2k a unit. iirc the drone school guys crank out FPV drones out for less than 1k a piece.
   • MaleGoddess :verified: (malegoddess@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:49:43 JST MaleGoddess :verified:

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @deprecated_ii @Some_German_Guy @Terry @Tripp
     
     "cheapest" hasn't been true for the US military since WWII.
     The contracts go to whichever companies the politicians own stocks in, and whoever lobbies hard enough to get the contact. And by lobby, I mean paying the right people to get it approved.
     
     When 9/11 happened, defense contractors heard cash register *cha-chings* in their ears. Those bodies falling from the WTC were money bags.
     All the useless impractical shit that never got approved just got approved.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 16-Aug-2023 03:49:43 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @MaleGoddess @Some_German_Guy @Terry @Tripp @deprecated_ii It’s not to the old standards though. Lots of the new stuff is cool, golly-gee tech but it’s aging at an accelerated rate. The super hornet is just as ragged and fatigued at 10 years as the legacy hornet was at 20. Turns out they didn’t really put enough thought into their lightweight new metallurgy and it’s aging way faster than the original steel and aluminum.

     Technically proficient in some ways only goes so far. I think we’ve already blown past the point of diminishing returns, looking at our readiness rates (the real ones, not the gamed numbers that show ludicrous 70% uptime)