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1.  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 03:00:37 JST 

   • Alex Gleason
   @alex Luke "Vim Diesel" Smith has started a CSAM-Buster project that's supposed to do what it says on the title, and it's using Nostr for has distribution. Were you involved by any chance?
   https://gitgud.io/lukesmithxyz/csam-buster/-/blob/master/spec/spec.md
   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 03:28:09 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     @mint @alex Congrats. You just did a felony.
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   • Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 03:34:30 JST Alex Gleason

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     @mint Wow! This is the first I'm hearing of this.
   • Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 03:34:30 JST Alex Gleason

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     @mint This project collects hashes, voted on by users. According to the IWF even holding the hashes is illegal... and I don't know about the concept of voting.
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   • burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 03:35:03 JST burner

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     • IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫
     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     why is CumskinFoidPuncher69420 the voice of reason
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   • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 03:35:04 JST Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

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     • Alex Gleason
     @alex @mint
     
     
     
     Wow, in the end, they will have the world's largest collection of CP
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   • IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫 (cumskinfoidpuncher69420@beefyboys.win)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 03:35:04 JST IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:
     CP laws aren't there for the benefit of abused children. TPTB sustain their life force off of abused children. They are muggle laws. CP laws are there to be used as a weapon against you. Tech people do this little song and dance about how to carefully handle instances of CP that crop up meanwhile Hunter Biden does what he does and you just open yourself up to further prosecution whenever you bring it up.
     
     State-backed system enjoyer reddit trannies routinely use CP they plant as a pretense to shut down dissent.
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   • Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 04:06:49 JST Alex Gleason

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     • Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
     @matty @caekislove @mint They're simply authorized by the government to do so. I don't think we can solve this problem in a truly decentralized way. We need a single nonprofit org with a license to do this, running a scraping tool across the whole network.
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   • Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell: (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 04:06:50 JST Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:

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     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     @caekislove @alex @mint :thunkd: how do other providers work? I imagine it's the same concept.
   • 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘 (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 04:12:33 JST 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘

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     • Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
     Interesting. Basically anything that could create a market from CP material is illegal, even if not CP itself, because it could lead to an increased demand for CP to support that market.
   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 04:12:33 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     • Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
     • 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘
     @Humpleupagus @alex @matty @mint It also seems to me that these organizations selling CP-detecting services to social media companies are profiting indirectly from CP in precisely the manner that this law sought to prevent.
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   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 04:12:34 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     • Alex Gleason
     • Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
     @matty @alex @mint The way the law is written I don't know if it's even legal to transmit HASHES of CP without government permission, since material "that was produced using" CSAM can't be legally transmitted in any way.
     
     https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2252A
   • 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘 (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 04:14:01 JST 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘

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     • Matty-kun :Christmas_kitty_bell:
     I agree. The law should be rewritten to clarify that hash lists are not themselves illegal.
     
     I have also found it strange that certain orgs are allowed to use what is essentially public property, e.g. confiscated CP, through cooperation with the government to monetize proprietary products. Hash lists should be competely unprotected by copyright or any other intellectual property law. Otherwise, the government is just creating monopolies, and ones that only prevent CP for those services rich enough to afford it.
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   • Curtis Rock (curtis@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 06:53:21 JST Curtis Rock

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     • Alex Gleason

     @mint @alex Luke Smith’s profile refers to jakparty.soy

     jakparty.soy refers to ourChan.org

     ourChan.org has a Mostr board https://ourchan.org/mostr

     The ourChan.org repo uses the Mostr relay https://github.com/smolgrrr/ourchan/commit/d93d15c1888fba6753770a60448e2e1c3d083653#diff-367bddb8e5e14fffd430641b848c17759e5d9311165fa85cb64a8cc96015c737

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   • Curtis Rock (curtis@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 06:53:57 JST Curtis Rock

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

     @verita84 @alex @mint This needs further discussion. It seems that the key use cases include:

     • Store valid hashes only
     • Hash migration/population by subscribing only to trusted NOSTR relays
     • Use open hashing libraries
     • Exercise the hashes to detect CSAM on the network
     • Use subscribed client voting to teach the system to remove false positives from the hash list

     https://github.com/facebook/ThreatExchange

     Potential improvements:

     • Maybe track the source of false positives, so that the trust rating of a CSAM-Buster node can be auto-adjusted, to dissuade generation of false positives
     • Add rate limiting for CSAM-Buster nodes so that one node cannot flood the system with false positive hashes
     • Track the original post that triggered a valid hash, so that automated reporting systems can be deployed once the CSAM-Buster system is fully validated

     When the net positives of the system outweigh the net negatives, and full open source efforts go into something like CSAM-Buster, law enforcement will never try to take it down, because the public would be in an uproar.

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   • Meteorofbullshit 🇻🇪 (elmeteorollenodemiercoles@baraag.net)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 23:39:27 JST Meteorofbullshit 🇻🇪

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     • Vivi Nella Verita :Debian_logo:

     @verita84 @alex @mint
     So, that loli german game was right about it? You know, cp persecutors having the biggest stash in existence for their own leisure.

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