So apparently Misskey is suddenly getting really strict about lewds? What's that about?
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チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 20:47:05 JST チャノさん -
Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 21:03:33 JST Token @japananon Probably to rein in the influx of western users they've gotten recently. -
チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 21:44:16 JST チャノさん @veru oh dear... yeah, I'm going to have to side with Misskey on this one as well.
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𝐕𝐞𝐫𝐮 (veru@gameliberty.club)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 21:44:17 JST 𝐕𝐞𝐫𝐮 @japananon What I know is that Misskey.io has blocked Baraag because people on there do not properly tag their art as NSFW. Baraag being a Western instance, there is probably the issue of uncensored genitals being put into the feeds of people in Japan that are using Misskey. Due to the influx of gaijin on the Misskey server, they might be having that issue.
Now some people on Baraag are upset they have to tag their porn art with the NSFW filter, when the admin has already asked this of people in the past and I believe is also in the server rules.
What I think: this is common courtesy to the Federated timeline, as even my eyes have been assaulted scrolling through there from people from Baraag because people don't tag their weird fetish art with the NSFW filter. Untagged Microsoft paint quality furry diaper art comes to mind in a flashback. :pepeShotgun: -
Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 10:17:57 JST Token @r000t @japananon Depends on the lewds. If it's 2D you just gotta pop an NSFW tag if it's even slightly erotic. If it's 3D it's a no-no on .io. Anything else is something I have not heard about or read deep enough in their ruleset to understand. Maybe japananon can provide more info if there are some.
Regardless, you can't even sign up as a westerner anymore on .io since the admin blocked access from outside japan to their registration form. -
Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 10:17:58 JST Himbo Techbro @coin @japananon I haven't been following all that closely, but isn't the lewds the thing the westerners don't like?
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Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 10:22:11 JST Himbo Techbro @coin @japananon and of course the people that just like the UX and etc. aren't going to deploy misskey, which is btw the easiest (imo) fedi software to deploy
that's why I used it for all those throwaway BEEP BOOP NOW ARCHIVING instances that *still* appear in blocklists. it takes less than 5 minutes to deploy misskey.
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Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 10:22:48 JST Token @r000t @japananon I heard it's super easy to deploy, but how easy is it to maintain? :think: -
Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 10:24:56 JST Token @r000t @japananon You've thrown them away like a used whore :blobcry: -
Himbo Techbro (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 10:24:57 JST Himbo Techbro @coin @japananon I wouldn't know, I threw every one of those instances away after ~3 days.
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チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 11:02:40 JST チャノさん @coin @r000t I'm not party to the details, but I would imagine the lack of genital censoring could be an issue. If misskey-dot-io is physically hosted in Japan, hosting any images of uncensored genitals...2D or 3D, drawings or anything else, creates a very real legal risk. The police can and have arrested people for similar.
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Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 11:07:33 JST Token @japananon @r000t Sure, but I saw they have defederated from baraag for not tagging images as NSFW. Or was it because baraag users do not have to censor their images, since it's not hosted by misskey. That is also depends on whether misskey provides an image proxy. -
Token (coin@asimon.org)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 11:17:54 JST Token @japananon @r000t Can the misskey software make instances marked as NSFW only? It could save them a hassle and keep federation working? I have never touched misskey so I don't know nor can I read their documentation since it's in Japanese. -
チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 11:17:55 JST チャノさん @coin @r000t That's something I wondered. If they were cacheing images from Baraag, that'd be a problem... but it could just be JP users were unhappy seeing untagged NSFW all over the feed and decided the nuclear option was easier. idk
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チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 15:56:09 JST チャノさん @coin @r000t I'm not sure how you could develop a good filter for this... if you rejected all non-NSFW tagged remote media, you'd be blocking legitimately SFW content more often than not. If you flag all remote media NSFW on local feed, people will have to click though on everything anyway just to see legit SFW posts, so the same problem reoccurs.
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