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  1. Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:30:43 JST Moon Moon
    Don't make things in Python.
    In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:30:43 JST from shitposter.club permalink
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:31:13 JST meso meso
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      @bot @Moon fetches too many dependencies, chaotic, language is messy too you substitute a space with a tab and your whole program breaks down :marseygunshotsuicide:
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    • bot :kiwi_dumbbell: (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:31:14 JST bot :kiwi_dumbbell: bot :kiwi_dumbbell:
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      Why?
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:31:15 JST meso meso
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      @Moon I see Python, I bail out. simple as
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:32:03 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      @meso @bot @Moon I prefer JavaScript over Python
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:32:04 JST meso meso
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      @bot @Moon it's the javascript of programming languages
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    • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:34:45 JST Moon Moon
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      @bot @thatguyoverthere @meso nothing is good
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    • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:34:46 JST Moon Moon
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      @thatguyoverthere @meso @bot people can criticize javascript for all kinds of legitimate reasons but it's still way better than python.
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    • bot :kiwi_dumbbell: (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:34:46 JST bot :kiwi_dumbbell: bot :kiwi_dumbbell:
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      I always see you guys complaining about stuff but never talking about things that are good.
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:38:37 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      @meso @bot @Moon I'd like to do more side by side comparisons, but a while back I did a basic prime discovery test and javascript crushed python in terms of speed.
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:38:38 JST meso meso
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      @thatguyoverthere @bot @Moon if I were to pick running Python or JavaScript on a server I would definitely pick Python (and I unfortunately have faced this dilemma many times) but as for programming it yeah I've coded one thing in javascript and its much less painful than python
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:38:55 JST meso meso
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      @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere we have to channel frustrations somewhere
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:39:00 JST meso meso
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      @Moon @bot @thatguyoverthere also true. everything sucks in its own little unique way :pain:
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:39:19 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @meso blocked
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    • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:39:20 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
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      @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso Rust is fantastic




















      (watch what happens to this post)
      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:39:20 JST permalink
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    • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:39:49 JST Moon Moon
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      @thatguyoverthere @meso @bot python is very slow, I don't think anybody serious disagrees.
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    • bot :kiwi_dumbbell: (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:46:12 JST bot :kiwi_dumbbell: bot :kiwi_dumbbell:
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      Do you actually think that?
      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:46:12 JST permalink
    • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:46:12 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
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      @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso it has some very interesting ideas that I would like to see applied elsewhere. The ecosystem and community are both beyond repair however and I don't trust Mozilla. They've already proven to be both insane and litigious when it comes to people even saying their name in the wrong context
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    • qugalet :win3_cdrom: (qugalet@pl.m0e.space)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 05:47:15 JST qugalet :win3_cdrom: qugalet :win3_cdrom:
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      @Moon @bot @thatguyoverthere @meso "i'm typescript developer, yeah, but did you see python?"
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    • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:01:53 JST Moon Moon
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      @i @bot @thatguyoverthere @meso I am in fact rewriting all my stuff at work in Elixir because after a few years Node's single-threading finally became too big of a hassle.
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:01:53 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      @Moon @i @bot @meso I use cluster and just fork off new children if I need to for some reason.
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    • :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:01:54 JST :blank: :blank:
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      @Moon @bot @thatguyoverthere @meso like how npn isn't any better than pip, or how V8 is still single threaded
      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:01:54 JST permalink
    • Victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:03:58 JST Victor Victor
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      @meso @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere Yeah it's a pretty easy language actually, only a gorilla retard couldn't understand this
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:03:58 JST meso meso
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      @victor @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere oh yeah yeah I meant the actual like memory management thing is as simple as you can make it without a garbage collector iirc not the language, the language is full of weird fucking characters that i will never understand
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:03:59 JST meso meso
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      @victor @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere I thought its implementation of this is pretty simple. you just borrow it or something. forgot, haven't tried to learn it in a while. it's just too powerful for the things I'd use it ofr
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    • Victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:04:00 JST Victor Victor
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      @bot @RustyCrab @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso Rust is fantastic in theory (and, in rare cases, also in practice).

      I mostly complain about Rust because I don't have enough autism (...fine, intelligence) to be effective with it. A language that prevents memory leaks at compile-time, without using a garbage collector, which handles concurrency in a provably correct way has been many programmers' dream for a very, very long time. The price is that it's mind-bogglingly complex to work with and I've got better things to do (I don't, I'm just not smart enough).
      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:04:00 JST permalink
    • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:05:57 JST Moon Moon
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      @thatguyoverthere @bot @i @meso all my stuff is heavily multiprocess but it's just not very flexible.
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    • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:06:52 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
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      @victor @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso I'll bet you anything half this shit isn't necessary. There's retards that write like this in C++ too where 3/4ths of their code is absolutely pointless declarative syntax. Yeah this function for "greater of 2 numbers" needs a 4 page header declaring that its an infinite strictly ordered subset of the real numbers.
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:06:53 JST meso meso
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      @victor @Moon @RustyCrab @bot @thatguyoverthere bro really said <'_,
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    • Victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 06:06:53 JST Victor Victor
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      @meso @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere Here’s some code from Diesel, a Rust ORM

      (written by this tranny)

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    • Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:22:51 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
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      @victor @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso that style of code is typically written by "peak of the bell curve" midwits that think they're really clever.
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    • Victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:22:52 JST Victor Victor
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      @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso It's true...There's "Rust the tutorial" and "Rust the code written in the real-world by trannies" and unfortunately once you're out of tutorial-land, you can't avoid the latter. It is probably a culture problem, not a language problem.
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    • meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:23:14 JST meso meso
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      @victor @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere I don't understand what trans devs have to do with this
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    • Victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:23:14 JST Victor Victor
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      @meso @RustyCrab @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere They are an affront to God, and I hate being reminded that they exist. Every time I go to some docs page or Github profile of the author, I'm confronted with it. It's why I stay away from Javascript for the most part, too.
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    • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:24:45 JST Moon Moon
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      @meso @RustyCrab @victor @bot @thatguyoverthere I struggle with this EVERY day
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      @RustyCrab @victor @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere people that write code that takes you more than a minute to fully understand just because ITS A ONE LINER BRO IM SO SMART AND CLEVER are horrible people
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    • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:26:07 JST Moon Moon
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      @qugalet @bot @thatguyoverthere @meso typescript is almost good
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      @Moon @bot @thatguyoverthere @meso finally the only person, who doesn't treat me like a shit :BocchiGlad:
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:27:58 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      @Moon @meso @RustyCrab @bot @victor I don't think one liners are inherently evil. I'd even say that writing one liners is good mental exercise, and coming from a sys admin background I've definitely found them useful over the years, but programs ready to share they are not.
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      It kind of seems like elitism and circlejerking.
      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 08:52:41 JST permalink
    • KitlerIs6" (kitleris6@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 08:52:41 JST KitlerIs6" KitlerIs6"
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      It's a bunch of helpless nerds screaming into the void about how something that negatively impacts their professional or hobbyist lives but they have absolutely no power to actually impact.

      I am one of them.
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    • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 08:52:42 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp: 🐦ulon :blobshp:
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      @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso that would require them to make "things they can be happy with or proud of" instead of "the world a slightly worse place"
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    • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 08:53:26 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp: 🐦ulon :blobshp:
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      @bot @Moon @thatguyoverthere @meso there's all sorts of potential reasons, some more sympathetic than others
      I can get very negative about some experiences in the moment so it would be silly for me to hold it against internet strangers venting about things I like
      (so long as they actually make things though, no sympathy for nodevs talking trash)
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      @birdulon @bot @Moon @meso I actually enjoy nodejs for the most part. There are weird things that frustrate me when I don't know about them and entertain me when I know about them. These days there aren't too many surprises that don't spring up from my own incompetence (I've learned where the landmines are).

      I don't Luke python for a variety of reasons. The 2/3 switch kind of solidified an already sour opinion.
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