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1. :backfromgab: :qtastolfo: :negi: (zemichi@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:14:43 JST :backfromgab: :qtastolfo: :negi:
   Basically, you cant reconcile paying for Twitter while also putting limits on paid accounts.
   
   It's such a major misplay on twitters part you have to wonder what the psyop is.
   
   And no I don't believe the whole "they didn't pay their bills" because that's news media and news media is always fake.
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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:18:59 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     >It's such a major misplay on twitters part you have to wonder what the psyop is.
     
     Right now all Twitter posts tell me "something went wrong" and they raised the limit once.
     
     I think the endgame is to get everyone to sign up, killing Nitter/scrapers, and forcing everyone to be on Twitter. They've been slowly nudging towards this by breaking search and NSFW posts for those who aren't logged in.
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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:32:53 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     The idea is that people like my dad will sign up because he can't hear his MSNBC talking heads and Dan LeBatard mald on fedi or follow NPR/MSNBC/HuffPost on it.
   • 御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:32:54 JST 御園はくい

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     @PhenomX6 @zemichi >get everyone to sign up
     >drives an exodus and destroy the network effect instead
   • :backfromgab: :qtastolfo: :negi: (zemichi@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:34:54 JST :backfromgab: :qtastolfo: :negi:

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     @PhenomX6
     I know the limit was increased. But I want to focus on the initial announcement.
     
     Saying that paid accounts (verified) have a rate limit attached to them is such a mistake. They're telling everyone that their paid accounts are worth less than twitter accounts before Elon, even worth less than the days of twitter jail.
     
     It's an incredible PR mistake... If it was a mistake. I should note we're close to election season. :backfromgab:
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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:34:54 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     That's nice and all but your favorite internet artist or TV talking head is on Twitter, not fedi. Whoops.
   • :backfromgab: :qtastolfo: :negi: (zemichi@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:54:03 JST :backfromgab: :qtastolfo: :negi:

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     @hakui @PhenomX6
     Guess who mentioned that plan? :backfromgab:
     
     Down to the CP claims too. They're saying that's also a reason for the rate limits. (Moderation backlog.)
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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:54:03 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     I just found the original post and I slightly disagree. I think their end goal with the decentralization shit is they want decentralized but centralized.
     
     Look at Bluesky and how the network architecture is "centralized" in a way. Look at how Eugen tries to corral people into a few instances that share his viewpoints and how they push blocklists. Aside from easily being monitored, it also allows them to control the flow of data. Look how Meta and Mozilla and others are getting in on the game, they want the same thing or similar goals, be it censorship or monitoring or both.
     
     They don't need to take over much to create an e-mail issue, especially if instances on the freer side have signups turned off.
     https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 13:57:28 JST Machismo

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     @PhenomX6 @hakui @zemichi niggers can't understand self-solving problems
   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 14:00:44 JST xianc78

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     @PhenomX6 @zemichi @hakui
     >especially if instances on the freer side have signups turned off.

     Are admins still paranoid after that Linder shitshow?

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 14:01:34 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     As for the Tumblr thing, I'm going to link this too since you'll find this interesting as well and it might back up your theories:
     https://sreegs.tumblr.com/post/671649355334336512/alright-lets-talk-about-apple-and-tumblrs
     
     This has a Tumblr employee POV on the porn ban. Aside from the fact that Verizon likely didn't give a shit about what they had just realized they bought, there was the elephant in the room of Apple using their clout to force Tumblr to do what Apple wanted. Aside from Apple not exactly liking Tumblr, Apple was clearly giving Insta/Twitter preferential treatment.
     
     The current Tumblr CEO also made a post sounding a lot like Joshua Connor Moon on why he can't have porn on his site anymore, blaming the same exact people as well (while also focusing more on IRL porn and not drawings, which were a big chunk of what made Tumblr big):
     https://www.tumblr.com/photomatt/696629352701493248/why-go-nuts-show-nuts-doesnt-work-in-2022
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 14:09:53 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     I should add too, Verizon's Yahoo/AOL buyout was as much of a fucking disaster as when AOL was bought and sold off by Warner, if not bigger.
     https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/04/verizon-tries-to-sell-yahoo-and-aol-after-spending-9-billion-on-fallen-giants/
     https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/01/apollo-completes-its-5b-acquisition-of-verizon-media-now-known-as-yahoo/
     
     They spent 9 billion, and sold for 5 billion. That's even worse than buying for 1 billion and selling for a few million. Verizon clearly bought AOL and Yahoo for the news/media sites (including HuffPo), and did not give a shit about anything else since while also under Verizon, AIM and Yahoo IM were shut down, along with infamously killing Yahoo Answers and Yahoo Groups (killing many old pages online). They spun off Flickr as well and obviously Tumblr.
     
     They absolutely assfucked part of the internet and did not give a shit and Tumblr was just one example of this.
   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 14:21:43 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     There’s probably a lot more on the Tumblr porn ban and Yahoo/Verizon out there, but my theory with the Tumblr porn ban (from what I know about the tech industry and what I saw firsthand from being closer to that circle online) comes down to this:

     • Yahoo buys Tumblr, doesn’t do too much with it, people get worried at first but it goes back to business as usual.
     • During this time, Tumblr also happens to allow IRL porn, which as the Pornhub scandal would show is a lot riskier than drawings only.
     • Verizon buys Yahoo and AOL for advertising and news sites.
     • Verizon also happens to buy Tumblr as a result, and Apple kicks them off the app store after finding CP and whatnot, wants them to ban all porn.
     • Tumblr didn’t exactly have a good porn flagging algorithm since unlike Android, iOS explicitly bans NSFW. You may notice Twitter has gotten stricter on NSFW since then as well.
     • Verizon presumably decides to ban porn because they want to wash their hands of this all, has no regard about what it did to the health of the internet because profits.
     • Tumblr refugees shit up the internet since their containment site broke and they’re too dumb to make a site like Pillowfort (which constantly has exploits LMAO).

     I’m sure if Verizon actually gave a shit about the other sites they bought with Yahoo and didn’t also spin off flickr and kill Yahoo Answers and Groups at the same time, they might have tried harder to keep the site up. They just wanted the issue to go away.

   • 🐦ulon :blobshp: (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 19:18:17 JST 🐦ulon :blobshp:

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     @hakui @zemichi @Skoll3 6000/day is over 4/minute. 10000/day is nearly 7/minute, approaching 1 post per second if you spend 3 hours/day on twitter. Maybe I'm out of touch but that seems like terminally-online numbers to actually read daily and why wouldn't someone that deranged pay for two premium accounts instead of one.
   • 御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 19:18:18 JST 御園はくい

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     @Skoll3 @zemichi yes the 6000 limit is after the pikachu dot png
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   • 御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 19:18:25 JST 御園はくい

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     @zemichi assuming it's really due to "muh AI scrapers"
     >limit free accounts
     >AI companies cough up eight bucks, put it down as a business expense, and continues scraping
     >surprised pikachu dot png
   • Casually running on stock! (skoll3@nixnet.social)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 19:18:25 JST Casually running on stock!

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     @hakui @zemichi 6000 for paid accounts ain't that much either
   • laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 19:52:35 JST laurel

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     Twitter and Reddit are only valuable so long as they can control their users' opinions. Quality posters along with whole communities were banned for meddling with the websites being turned into efficient brainwashing machines.
     After pushing very hard for the past few years they can no longer perform that function.
     Still, they gotta monetize somehow.
     Nobody would care if gabai did this, that's where twitter/reddit is at this point from a value point of view.
   • ☻ (mrsaturday@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 21:12:36 JST ☻

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     @PhenomX6 @zemichi @hakui Dan LeBatard's best trait is his dad
     The guy's a pinhead but his dad was at least funny and made their crappy ESPN show watchable
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   • Ash (ash@awoo.fyi)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 21:12:49 JST Ash

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     I’m sure if Verizon actually gave a shit about the other sites they bought with Yahoo and didn’t also spin off flickr

     When they got Flickr, they basically started imposing limits on free accounts, so much so that the photography community has left it entirely.

     Imagine being on a social network that limits free accounts to 1,000 posts. That’s what Flickr did and still does.

   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 21:12:49 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     @Ash @zemichi @hakui https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/11/free-flickr-accounts-slashed-to-1000-pictures-the-rest-will-be-deleted/
     That was post yahoo