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1. Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:39:03 JST Laurie Voss

   It's June, which means I traditionally write a little thread about Pride and being queer and optimism and hope but this year I've been really struggling with it.

   • Christi Junior (christijunior@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:38:59 JST Christi Junior

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     @seldo Funny, this is almost exactly how I feel about LGBTP faggots.
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   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:39:00 JST Laurie Voss

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     Fascists don't want debate, they pretend to. They don't need inclusion. They need to be made afraid. They need to shut the fuck up because if they don't someone is going to punch them in the face. Violence isn't the answer to every problem but it's the only answer that's ever worked against fascism.

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   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:39:01 JST Laurie Voss

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     But if you're not overwhelmed, especially if you're straight, cis, and white, this year it's more important than ever to not just think ally thoughts but take action. It's great that you've opened your heart to these issues. Now open your wallet, and most importantly open your mouth. Use your voice to defend us, and use your voice *to attack them*.

   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:39:01 JST Laurie Voss

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     Stonewall happened because someone (it's disputed exactly who, but it wasn't a white dude) threw a brick. Change happens not when we claim the moral high ground, it comes when we kick back and hand some fascists their asses.

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   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:39:02 JST Laurie Voss

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     All around the world and even, perhaps especially the US, fascism is on the rise. It's against queer people, especially trans people, but it's by no means restricted to us. Anti-asian attacks, anti-semitic attacks, and of course the ever-present tide of anti-Blackness are all on the rise. It's hard not to feel overwhelmed and hopeless about the whole situation.

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   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:39:02 JST Laurie Voss

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     If you're queer right now it may feel like being Proud is really tricky when it's taking all your mental and emotional strength to just stay alive. It's not just you. And if that's all you can do right now, it's enough.

   • Gyaru Enjoyer (locagainstwall@varishangout.net)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:40:24 JST Gyaru Enjoyer

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     @seldo
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   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:40:25 JST Laurie Voss

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     So for Pride month and every month, I want you to remember that you *do* know what a fascist looks like, and the time for tut-tutting and worrying about what to do is over. You know what to do, and it's to close every door to them, push them out of every space, deny them their voice. Because we know the difference between good things and bad things and can act on that understanding.

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   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:40:25 JST Laurie Voss

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     And if all else fails, punch them in the face.

     Happy Pride.

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   • nach (nach@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:40:50 JST nach

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     @seldo toughest nigga on the block
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   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:43 JST Jeff Cliff

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     • Jeff Cliff
     HOLY FUCK YOU COFOUNDED NPM?
     
     I hope they fucking hang you from a tree
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   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:44 JST Laurie Voss

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     • Jeff Cliff

     @jeffcliff have you seen my mentions today?

   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:44 JST Jeff Cliff

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     oh one day with them, you poor muffin
   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:45 JST Laurie Voss

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     • Jeff Cliff

     @jeffcliff you mean me right now?

   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:45 JST Jeff Cliff

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     How many fascists do you have in your life?
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:46 JST Jeff Cliff

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     One of us has actual fascists in their life. One of us probably doesn't.
     
     Which one probably understands the underlying motivations, experiences and level of understanding better? Which one consistently gets noticed by fascists for explaining them to a T to others, when he provides political commentary on them?
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:47 JST Jeff Cliff

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     This is prejudging a fair number of people with different motivations and levels of understanding of the world. Some really do want debate. There's a whole generation of young people, some of whom are being radicalized by actual fascists, who see people like you, and who are repulsed by your inability to articulate the validity of your position using anything other than force.
     
     > the only answer that's ever worked against fascism.
     
     This is definitely not true. To give one of many possible examples: in canada, we would take captured nazi POWs and hold them in camps like one near #tbay, where they were treated with respect as prisoners of war with basic human rights, treat them with 3 square meals a day, and shelter, and gradually talk them down from being radicalized, and get intel from them. Treating nazis with respect actually wound up with some of them integrating into society with much of their bigotry cut out. Obviously they still felt some hostility towards jews or whatever but gradually the hatred became irrelevant, and increasingly marginalized. Force and violence can be useful, and necessary including but not limited to dealing with people who hate you in many contexts but it isn't the only tool you can use. Do you have to treat them with respect? Hell no. But saying stuff like "violence is the only thing they understand" says more about your lack of humanity than theirs
   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:43:47 JST Laurie Voss

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     • Jeff Cliff

     @jeffcliff nope.

   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:58:57 JST Laurie Voss

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     Just so many Nazis in the fediverse apparently. It's nice to be able to block an entire server at once.

   • Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:58:58 JST Laurie Voss

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     Lotta people in my mentions who need some face punching today.

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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 03:59:55 JST Christi Junior

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     @seldo Remember, all of this began with this faggot talking about how "Fascists don't want to debate".
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   • GrungeQueef :verified: (grungequeef@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 04:03:36 JST GrungeQueef :verified:

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     @seldo I'm here to defaggotize this tread.
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   • PorkCow (porkcow@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 04:14:19 JST PorkCow

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     @seldo >People don't like pedophiles anymore.
     Nature is healing.
     >Niggers are beating the shit out of Asians and for some reason people hate niggers for it.
     Common sense is a white value
     >I hate it
     Get right with God before I send you to him
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   • IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫 (cumskinfoidpuncher69420@beefyboys.win)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:04:41 JST IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫

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     • Jeff Cliff
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     > So the way to deal with Nazis is to put them in a prison camp and deprogram them out of their cult?
     We should concentrate all the nazis and the incels into camps and deprogram their racist brains through hard emotional labor to get the economy going again. We can give them catchy slogans like "Work shall set you free" or something.
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   • Andrew Prillaman (thatprilla@theatl.social)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:04:43 JST Andrew Prillaman

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     • Jeff Cliff

     @jeffcliff @seldo

     So the way to deal with Nazis is to put them in a prison camp and deprogram them out of their cult?

     Also, do you think they hugged them into that camp?

     The entire precondition for your "treat them with respect" scenario was that they were first likely subjected to force until they were either captured or surrendered.

     Did you really think through this?

   • binkle (binkle@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:05:25 JST binkle

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     @seldo
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   • IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫 (cumskinfoidpuncher69420@beefyboys.win)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:10:01 JST IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫

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     • Jeff Cliff
     • IT'S OPEN SEASON ON WHITE BITCHES 💢👊🚶‍♀️🔫
     • Andrew Prillaman
     Dude why the fuck did you block me you fucking fascist hitler maga trump nazi ultra maga maga alt-right chuddy incel fhahsndiwusjgnkec
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   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:10:49 JST nugger

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     @seldo LOW-MIDDLE
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:18:02 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @seldo Nobody cares, faggot. Your kind will get a lot worse if you don't leave our children alone.
   • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:18:59 JST Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️

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     @seldo Lotta faggots posting on my federated social network that need to be thrown off a building today.
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   • 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘 (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:19:00 JST 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘

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     • Caek Islove 🍰 ❤️
     This violent gay extremism is a danger to our children and communities. We've already seen multiple mass shootings carried out by guys who use this kinda of extremely homosexual rhetoric. When will somebody do something about the queer menace?
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   • sks (karabin@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:24:39 JST sks

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     @seldo back to the closet faggot
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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:54:40 JST Christi Junior

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     @seldo I like it when the the faggots legitimize everything that will happen to them in advance.
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:55:56 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • Christi Junior
     @ChristiJunior @seldo "We're gonna punch those mean old Nazis for baby Yoda and our Funko Pops!" :soyjak_reddit:
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:57:36 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • Christi Junior
     @ChristiJunior @seldo Not as big on anti-Asian attacks but we all know those are being done by blacks anyways.
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:57:37 JST Christi Junior

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     @seldo >All around the world and even, perhaps especially the US, fascism is on the rise. It's against queer people, especially trans people, but it's by no means restricted to us. Anti-asian attacks, anti-semitic attacks, and of course the ever-present tide of anti-Blackness are all on the rise.
     
     Sounds good to me :shrug:
   • 🆒Ｅｌｉ👑 (zoomgoboom@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:57:55 JST 🆒Ｅｌｉ👑

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     • Christi Junior
     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     @ArdainianRight I've never met a person who isn't a bugman who likes Funko Pops. They're like figurines for people without a soul. @ChristiJunior @seldo
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   • 🆒Ｅｌｉ👑 (zoomgoboom@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 08:00:28 JST 🆒Ｅｌｉ👑

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     • Christi Junior
     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     @ArdainianRight Protect the east asians, Hitler liked the Japanese after all and that's good enough for me. @ChristiJunior @seldo
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   • :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 08:02:29 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:

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     So fascists don't want debate, and you know this because you tried punching them?
     
     I'll be honest here laurie, you don't look like you've got a mean left hook hiding just out of view. If you actually tried to punch a fascist they might not notice.
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   • CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 08:09:40 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @seldo "Gay people should physically attack people who are generally larger than them."
     
     :ogey:
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   • WhiteExodite (bleedingphoenix@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 08:10:46 JST WhiteExodite

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     @seldo give it your best shot, faggot. you're too busy simply trying to stay alive and you'll fail that too, both in this life and the next. your enemies, on the other hand, are normal and can be trusted with weapons.
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:09:36 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     • Qwertz :v_gay:
     @TheMadPirate @Qwertz @seldo "Punching anyone who held opinions that were near-universal before the 1960s is a moral absolute." :soyjak_reddit:
   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:09:37 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Qwertz :v_gay:
     @Qwertz @seldo
     Since morality is NOT relative, nor hierchical, if we accept your moral premise as valid, then the following moral premise is also valid :
     
     "Punching pedophile groomers is always morally praiseworthy. It is one of a very few true moral absolutes."
     
     Remember, whatever you do to others, will be done onto you.
   • Qwertz :v_gay: (qwertz@tech.lgbt)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:09:41 JST Qwertz :v_gay:

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     @seldo Punching fascists is always morally praiseworthy. It is one of a very few true moral absolutes.

   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:18:28 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     • Qwertz :v_gay:
     @ArdainianRight @Qwertz @seldo
     1960?
     Try 2010....
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   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:20:19 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • EvilSandmich
     @EvilSandmich @seldo
     I always find very ironic that those most opposed to Black Shirts.....act exactly like the Black Shirts did.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:20:19 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • EvilSandmich
     • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/
     @TheMadPirate @EvilSandmich @seldo Except they do it to the innocent rather than the guilty.
   • EvilSandmich (evilsandmich@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:20:20 JST EvilSandmich

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     @seldo Whenever I see a post like this I’m always amused by the fact that these court eunuchs couldn’t give a reasoned definition of “fascist” even under threat of having their balls reattached.
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   • Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:22:17 JST Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)

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     @seldo The Stonewall riot happened because the nypd was raiding an unlicensed bar with mob ties that was running underaged prostitutes and then blackmailing the punters.
     
     "The police were harassing us"
     Good. Running rent boys should get police attention.
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   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:22:33 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)
     @Kang_Kong3 @seldo Ohh, you know SJWs, they love to start telling the story from the middle or any other point that is convenient for them, but never from the very start.
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   • Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/ (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 10:24:33 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker :verified: - https://the-mad-pirate-prints.com/

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     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     • EvilSandmich
     @ArdainianRight @EvilSandmich @seldo
     Agreed.
     Even the SA started just as a reaction to overtly violence of Antifa back in the 1920s Wiemar.
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