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1. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 10:01:38 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

   • nugger

   Cool, but this is real adult world, where you have to finance this stuff somehow. We can’t keep acting like 14 year olds saying “well, just do it illegally lol”. We gotta be grownups about these things. It’s much easier to say “duh, just buy it on the black market maaaaaan” than done. You make choices that have consequences.

   Going the nigger route may save you money but it comes with drawbacks, probably more than they’re worth. Shoddy material that ages poorly and falls apart years before it should, zero warranty for it, all kinds of fuckery with disability-seeking shitskins and dirtbags holding up construction for a ransom. That’s just the start, too - don’t forget about the tax implications! You WILL have county people come out when they pay to update their sat imagery, and they WILL have a lot of questions about what that nifty, fancy new taxable structure is you never told them about.

   First, how will you finance construction if it’s under the table? You gotta get the money from somewhere, and nobody here is well off enough to be able to just toss out $10k for an essential fix - otherwise more poasters would be familiar with the ins and outs of running these kinds of things.

   Okay, you manage to scrape together a couple thousand for some cool under the table work - surprise! it sucks ass. Every time I’ve cheaped out on something and gone with the “I know a guy who has extra asphalt/wood/cement” it has lasted about 15 years before needing complete replacement. If you nig up a project, it’ll jew you in return. If we’d just sucked it up and done it the right way, we wouldn’t be looking at about $40k in repairs before we sell this place. Now add in the “ah I didn’t tell the county anything lol” and see how fun it is to demand $40% more than your home is assessed at when they start building a new subdivision down the road.

   I’ve been dealing with this nonsense for quite some time, I don’t have a lot of patience for people who aren’t in the same boat telling me about fantasy numbers. I know MY numbers that I’ve seen in my family. When you have a homestead you’ll get the opposite of what you plan for: If you think it’s cheap, you’re gonna be ass raped on expenses and breakdowns. If you plan for the worst, then you’ll see those choices pay dividends over time.
   
   RT: https://poa.st/objects/3061839d-bc1f-445a-9710-836c2bad0f39

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 10:02:53 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     First, how will you finance construction if it’s under the table? You gotta get the money from somewhere, and nobody here is well off enough to be able to just toss out $10k for an essential fix - If people here had that kind of liquidity, we wouldn’t have so many conversations like this. Poasters would be familiar with the ins and outs of running these kinds of things.

     Okay, say you manage to scrape together a couple thousand for some cool under the table work - surprise! it sucks ass. Every time I’ve cheaped out on something and gone with the “I know a guy who has extra asphalt/wood/cement” it has lasted about 15 years before needing complete replacement. If you nig up a project, it’ll jew you in return. If we’d just sucked it up and done it the right way, we wouldn’t be looking at about $40k in repairs before we sell this place. Now add in the “ah I didn’t tell the county anything lol” and see how fun it is to demand $40% more than your home is assessed at when they start building a new subdivision down the road.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 10:03:48 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     I’ve been dealing with this nonsense for quite some time, I don’t have a lot of patience for people who aren’t in the same boat telling me about fantasy numbers. I know MY numbers that I’ve seen in my family. We’ve gotten off light sometimes, and heavy in others. Overall though, all these cost quotes people tell me are about 1/2 of what it’s cost IRL.

     When you have a homestead you’ll get the opposite of what you plan for: If you think it’s cheap, you’re gonna be ass raped on expenses and breakdowns. If you plan for the worst, then you’ll see those choices pay dividends over time.

   • 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘 (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 10:06:21 JST 🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘

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     Not to mention that in many states unpermitted construction is not grandfathered in. So if code changes between the build and when you get caught, you have to bring it to code or tear it down.
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   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 10:07:53 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @Humpleupagus Have had that happen to, real fun having to tear out good, high-quality work and replace it with shoddy, modern imitations because of “code”.

     Now someone will say “move somewhere without a code lol hahaha”, and to that, anyone who’s lived there will tell you that code cuts both ways. That freedome you like also means your neighbor can open up a no-notice trailer park and human trafficking emporium with nothing but grumpy letters from the sheriff’s office.

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 10:19:53 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @nugger I know you aim lower than that, bud. That was just a good anchor post because it was short and didn’t have too many points to distract from what I was talking about.

     I’m still holding out optimism that you’re underestimating how it will gof ro you anyways, I’ve seen plenty of “underachievers” hit it big. Just be likable and take the right shots as they present themselves

   • nugger (nugger@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 10:19:54 JST nugger

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot I WILL NEVER HAVE A HOMESTEAD, I WILL NEVER HAVE CONSTRUCTION OR BUILDINGS OR DEED TO LAND
     I WILL NEVER HAVE A CAREER OR A CREDIT SCORE
     DONT OVERESTIMATE ME
     THAT POST WAS ABOUT SQUATTING IN A RUIN OFF
     OF MLK BOULEVARD AND GROWING POTATOES IN THE BACKYARD
     HAVING A FUTURE OF ANY SORT IS A DELUSIONAL PIPEDREAM
   • d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 11:12:07 JST d

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     • nugger
     @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger The laws are going to have to be rolled back or people will simply stop following them out of necessity.
     
     People cannot afford to pay for all the legally mandated extra baggage anymore and the world doesn't stop because some asshole on the town council wants to require a license, permit and inspection to change a water spigot.
   • スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 11:12:07 JST スカイラー🎄🇷🇺 :z:

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     @deprecated_ii @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger that's where the anarcho-tyranny comes in
     >hey this mother spoke up at the school board meeting in opposition to adding a gay sex unit to the 1st grade curriculum
     >let's send the code inspector to snoop around her house looking for violations
     >aha, the light fixture above her garage doesn't match the others in the neighborhood and there was no permit to replace it on record!
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   • Graf von Tripp (tripp@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2023 11:23:40 JST Graf von Tripp

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     • nugger
     @deprecated_ii @WashedOutGundamPilot @nugger Pretty much this, it already happens enough as is.
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