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1. † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 04:44:48 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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   @p @Phil @interfluidity People love free shit and its obvious when they make excuses as for why it should happen. Fuck the new deal.
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   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 04:59:03 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @interfluidity @Phil @p >great
     Started the downfall*
   • Steve Randy Waldman (interfluidity@zirk.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 04:59:04 JST Steve Randy Waldman

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     @dcc @Phil @p The New Deal is the main thing that ever made America great. Our letting it, and the spirit behind it, wither has been our national catastrophe.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:04:20 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @interfluidity @Phil @p I recommend first learning what really caused ww2 and go from there.
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   • Steve Randy Waldman (interfluidity@zirk.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:04:21 JST Steve Randy Waldman

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     @dcc @Phil @p I think we have established that we see these things quite differently!

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:07:16 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @interfluidity @Phil @p Also if you think for a second, America has spent more money than every anther nation combined on socialist policy and it never working should be a clue.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:16:41 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @interfluidity @Phil @p >The US spends as much
     More* also no Universal health care is terrible. The reason why alphabetical sucks in America is because there is no "private sector" healthcare. Insurance companies, hospitals, and the us government. I don't care to explain the full scam to you since its at least 3 paragraph's complicated
   • Steve Randy Waldman (interfluidity@zirk.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 05:16:42 JST Steve Randy Waldman

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     @dcc @Phil @p spending money badly is not "socialist policy".

     The US spends as much public money as most social democracies do on healthcare, and spends as much again privately. That's not the fault of "socialist policy". Universal health care works great many places. It's the fault of private sector incumbents blocking any sane arrangement of the health care system so they can continue to suck at the teat.

   • pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:07:18 JST pistolero

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     @interfluidity @dcc @Phil FDR was good friends with Bernays and Dulles; it doesn't take much digging to find the border between the sales pitch for the New Deal and the actual game.
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   • pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:08:01 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @interfluidity @Phil Well, what caused our entry; FDR was trying to get popular support for it from the beginning.
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   • w0rm (dsm@clew.lol)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:42:01 JST w0rm

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     Imagine talking to communists and not just killing them. How strange.
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   • pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:42:02 JST pistolero

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     > The New Deal is the main thing that ever made America great.
     
     The farm lobby has been a disaster. Infrastructure investment, sure, but the massive subsidies, the creation of the CIA, IMF, World Bank? Seriously? Both Roosevelts were catastrophic, but Teddy was only a foreign policy catastrophe (unless you count his cover-up of the sinking of the Maine before his presidency a domestic catastrophe), FDR was a domestic and foreign policy catastrophe.
   • The Felon Pope :popephil: (phil@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:49:33 JST The Felon Pope :popephil:

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     @interfluidity @dcc @p

     If I didn't have to pay so much into SS, I could a much larger retirement income.

     nobody denies that some good comes from government, but for every good thing there are about 3 bad.

     Every problem they solve, creates 2 more.

     They're a self interested group, that mostly lives to serve themselves.

     Theres a roll for government, but it should be finite and restricted

     it should set and enforce the rules and then stand back.

     They currently manipulate it for their cornies.

   • Steve Randy Waldman (interfluidity@zirk.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:49:34 JST Steve Randy Waldman

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     @Phil @dcc @p i've saved money for retirement as well, relying upon the government to regulate brokers and fund sponsors to ensure the bankruptcy remoteness of my assets from dangerous financial institutions. if you invest in the stock market, you've benefited from extraordinary stabilization and acceleration of those assets by policy, from a Fed that drops rates to stimulate the economy to a Trump that drops tariffs at first hint of a fall.

   • The Felon Pope :popephil: (phil@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:49:35 JST The Felon Pope :popephil:

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     @interfluidity @dcc @p
     mediocre at best.

     In spite of several market crashes, I have saved money for retirement my whole life.
     I've put away less than, the cost of SS in 401ks. Nonetheless, those 401k will provide 3x the income in retirement than SS will.

     I have also saved in taxable funds, without which, 4x ss would be a pretty modest retirement.

     2 the feds have spent 22 trllion on the war on poverty, about 3 trillion actually went to the poor, and it has been a complete failure.

   • Steve Randy Waldman (interfluidity@zirk.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 08:50:03 JST Steve Randy Waldman

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     @Phil @dcc @p as i've said before, i think you wouldn't like what you think you're asking for. you're investments might flee as fast as a memecoin dump without an SEC, or you'd have to guard your gold at home. and you'd have no social security to fall back on. if you think you are too clever for this, what about the millions of others also trying to save for retirement who might not be.

   • You Will (Not) Escape ☸️ (ubernigga@wizard.casa)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 09:10:26 JST You Will (Not) Escape ☸️

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     @p @dcc @Phil @interfluidity You don't get universal healthcare without eugenics unless resources become infinite.

     The only debate is whether or not eugenics can be a good thing.

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   • pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 08-Feb-2025 09:10:27 JST pistolero

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     > spending money badly is not "socialist policy".
     
     Over-regulation and safety nets are. "Too big to fail" is.
     
     > Universal health care works great many places.
     
     The Dutch have been trying to figure out how to make killing yourself more appealing for years ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarco_pod ) and have a de facto legalization of infant euthanasia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groningen_Protocol ). People don't jump the Canadian border to avail themselves of the doctors there, and the NHS has been complicit
     
     Another big-government foreign policy maneuver, overseen by USAID and probably driven by the CIA, was the forced sterilization of 300,000 native Peruvians by its universal healthcare system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_sterilization_in_Peru .
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   • w0rm (dsm@clew.lol)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:52:52 JST w0rm

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     I have never found value in the ideas of spoiled dysgenic freaks. Maybe I'm missing out, but the leeway of consideration has too high a cost, the abuse of being handed a flyer, but with the benefits of starving for free.
     
     They keep asking for big pharma gulag, give em what they want. State mandated booster shot. A million years of Jeff Cliff's literotica menses.
     
     Or buried in lye in an unmarked grave out in the badlands. 6 of 1...
   • pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:52:53 JST pistolero

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     @dsm @Phil @dcc @interfluidity Sure, but talking is talking; I don't mind talking to them, and you can't tell who's a player and who's a piece if you don't.
   • pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:52:54 JST pistolero

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     @dsm @Phil @dcc @interfluidity I was a commie as a yoof; I labor under the delusion that they can be fixed.
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   • w0rm (dsm@clew.lol)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:52:54 JST w0rm

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     @p
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     At some point a weak response beggars trouble; good intentions and a road to hell.
     
     Youth excuses many bad ideas, but the fix is corporeal in nature. You shoot thieves.
   • w0rm (dsm@clew.lol)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:53:32 JST w0rm

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     FEMA got dragged out behind the work shed and "fixed" recently. Thank goodness.
   • pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 07:53:33 JST pistolero

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     @dsm @Phil @dcc @interfluidity
     
     > the abuse of being handed a flyer, but with the benefits of starving for free.
     
     I had an image in my mind of a flyer with coupons for free starvation with purchase of any toil of equal or greater value.
     
     > They keep asking for big pharma gulag, give em what they want. State mandated booster shot. A million years of Jeff Cliff's literotica menses.
     
     :nixonlol2:
     
     > Or buried in lye in an unmarked grave out in the badlands. 6 of 1...
     
     See, they'd just lobby to get FEMA to do that.