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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 06:37:34 JST 
pistolero
@syzygy @frogzone @jeffcliff @stefano That's a tricky one, because there is no type of pornography that you can look at to discourage the CIA. Fortunately, the answer is simple: hack @pernia and route all of his traffic through your network. - † top dog :pedomustdie: likes this.
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frogzone@wizard.casa's status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 22:45:30 JST 
frogzone
@jeffcliff @smallcircles @p >of course the problems of nuclear comes with that, including political corruption here. Not sure what to do with that
nuclear doesn't work, its known NOT to work it requires violence and repression to even get by and it leaves in its wake violence and repression, we need to find real options that are long term sustainable, nuclear is not an option worth considering....ever.... it breeds problems and is totally unworkable in the longterm.
i'll tag u in something....one sec
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 22:45:30 JST
pistolero
@frogzone @smallcircles @jeffcliff
> nuclear doesn't work, its known NOT to work
I am pretty sure that you can use fissile material to heat water to create steam to turn a turbine and that the output of the energy is greater than the energy required to maintain the reaction.
> it requires violence and repression to even get by and it leaves in its wake violence and repression,
Thorium salt reactors are looking more and more plausible and those have, I imagine, none of the problems you want to complain about: they are safer, they use a more abundant element, they require less "THIS IS NOT A PLACE OF HONOR" signage, etc. If you have heard of it and you are ignoring it, or if your first instinct is to try to figure out what's wrong with it or what problems it has, then you should probably examine whether your complaint is with the alleged violence and repression or if your complaint is actually closer to Orwell's observation of some socialists: they don't love the poor, they hate the rich. (As far as I am concerned, if it represents an improvement over the use of uranium or plutonium, it's worth doing.)
> it breeds problems and is totally unworkable in the longterm.
It has been in use for decades; the better part of a century in fact.
Your strategy is unworkable in both the short and long terms. You will not ever shame people into using fewer resources. You cannot. That is what is really unworkable. Complaining has, for millennia, completely failed to result in workable solutions. It just annoys people that are building things.
You can work on making solar power more efficient, easier to manufacture, cheaper, etc., and making the batteries friendlier to whatever environmental goal you have, because there is no sun at night and there is usually no wind either. You can help with thorium salt or cold fusion or any of the other advances that will enable energy. You can build these things but if you try to complain until someone else builds them, you will fail and if you attempt to force them, you should first learn to speak Hindi and then Mandarin and complain in those languages. People fight wars for energy: they are not going to stop using energy just because they hear complaints.
I don't want to argue about nuclear energy, I want to get back to building things. I am happy to share thoughts, but I detest advocacy and if there is anything I hate more than advocacy, it is being advocated *at*. I view it is a sales pitch; until you have adopted my pet issues and my goals are achieved, your ideological sales pitch to save the earth is, like a preacher knocking at my door to save my soul, possibly well-intentioned but at best an interruption from the work that I believe will accomplish my goals. I don't mind talking ideas or philosophy, I like conversations, but I do not want to be advocated at and I don't want to be collateral damage for advocacy.
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frogzone@wizard.casa's status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 22:45:31 JST
frogzone
@jeffcliff @p @smallcircles on what parallel universe is nuclear energy considered "clean" energy with "zero emissions"? one where the narrative and language has clearly been co-opted by the corporate modern slavery purveyors, ie. bigtech and the military industrial intelligence media academia thinktank complex.
a result of years of indoctrination into a school of thought that #carbondioxide is the only problem.... a simple single problem for simple people....so sit back and let your corporate masters defile u now while saying they are serving you the godlike #AI you're told to crave.
https://web.archive.org/web/20241009005615/https://x-energy.com/ #technofix #stopnuclear #boycottbigtech #boycott #bds #cagemafia #xenergyllc
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Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 22:45:31 JST 
Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦
@frogzone @p @smallcircles
> a result of years of indoctrination into a school of thought that #carbondioxide is the only problem
It's not the only problem but it's one of the biggest ones, and one that needs to be solved. Nuclear waste storage is a long-term issue for whatever locality has to deal with it but the atmosphere is currently not being dealt with correctly and *all of humanity* is charged with making changes that minimize our impact, which includes but is not limited to replacing coal power with nuclear in places like saskatchewan
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سورق (syzygy@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 22:45:32 JST 
سورق
@p @pernia @stefano @jeffcliff @frogzone
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frogzone@wizard.casa's status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 22:45:32 JST
frogzone
@syzygy @stefano @jeffcliff @p @s8n >You do not have a mesh routing system for the current internet.
no but do you recognize that the following is CRIMINAL (from the OP, also repeated on this thread)
>Virginia plays a major role in this energy shift, with nearly half of all U.S. data centers located there—especially in an area known as Data Center Alley. Around 70% of the world’s internet traffic flows through this region each day. Dominion Energy supplies power to 452 data centers in Virginia, most of them located in Data Center Alley, and expects demand to increase by 85% over the next 15 years. AWS’s new SMRs are expected to provide at least 300 megawatts of power to the region.
@Suzu
>big tech is not 100% filled with retards and even they know that nuclear power is the best way to(...)65% hedonist (which is a form of mental retardation in my estimation) and 30% cold out-of-control, too-big-too-exist abusers of the people and resources, theyve never seen an new shart phone or electronic devices they did want to cram more power grabbing, privacy invading anti-features, and dodgy chips into. them going nuclear is total hubris, as in, "everything can go wrong, but its only a 'small, modular reactor' that we can just dump in the ocean if it goes bad and until then we can just mine bitcoins for the govt and print money for them and us with nuclear." the other 5% is being able to identify what businesses they need to print money to buyoff to maintain 'market' control.
its a totally psychotic, they need to be stopped, even if this is about delivering more 'christlike ai' to the peasants, which i dont believe for one second, that is just the 'mass line', they can quickly turn around the next day and say we are just going to nuclear power our ddos attacks and mine bitcoins for govt, we need to say no to this power grab by big tech. its too much pwer. they have already dominated too many industries, we cannot let them have electricity too, and importantly, decide who in the data centers gets that electricity.
they need to be stopped (in march 2024 but failing that we need to lobby to stop them) now.
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