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1. Shadowman311 (shadowman311@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 01:02:34 JST Shadowman311
   Trust the science
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   • 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 01:03:09 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸

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     @Shadowman311 now look at the massive fraud of trans healthcare. It'll never stop.
   • CatSoc :nv: (catlord@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:46 JST CatSoc :nv:

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     @ElTigre @SuperSnekFriend @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Shadowman311 >tau fiber tangles
     Is that a similar thing? Crazy proteins going haywire?
   • BT (eltigre@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:46 JST BT

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     @CatLord @SuperSnekFriend @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Shadowman311 Kind of. Because neurons have odd elongated shapes they need structural supports to retain their shape. The extremities of the cells also need nutrients to travel along the tunnels created by the scaffolding. Tau binds the scaffolding elements together. In Alzheimers and many other brain diseases the tau doesnt fold correctly and instead of forming the scaffolding it just creates a jumbled mess of fibers.
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   • CatSoc :nv: (catlord@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:47 JST CatSoc :nv:

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     @SuperSnekFriend @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Shadowman311 Wait for real the plaque doesn't even exist? There isn't plaque buildup on the brain with Alzheimers? I can't believe it. That's fucking crazy. When did this scandal break?
   • BT (eltigre@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:47 JST BT

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     @CatLord @SuperSnekFriend @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Shadowman311 The amyloid beta plaques are called into question. I think the Tau fiber tangles are still supported (and the Tau research seems more promising).
   • CatSoc :nv: (catlord@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:48 JST CatSoc :nv:

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     @SuperSnekFriend @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Shadowman311 Wait, the amyloid plaque isn't even real?
   • ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:48 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️

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     @CatLord @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Shadowman311 Correct, that is what a random company scientist found out, sadly. To be honest, we should have known something was wrong when drugs and lifestyle changes built around plaque removal didn't work five or so years in, but that's modern science for you. They don't want to remove a useless or worse paradigm simply because everyone else accept it. :02shrug:
   • CEO of Monoeye Dating (ceo_of_monoeye_dating@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:49 JST CEO of Monoeye Dating

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     @Shadowman311 This is completely within the set of things I would believe, but do you know which paper this is?
     
     It seems like it should be pretty big news, and not just something that people post on 4chan.
   • ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️ (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 02:56:49 JST ❄️:padoru: SantaSnekFriend :padoru:❄️

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     @ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Shadowman311 Here is the original faked paper:
     onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ana.21051
     Here is a more indepth view on the scandal, though with a slight bias in favor of the scientific establishment:
     science.org/content/article/potential-fabrication-research-images-threatens-key-theory-alzheimers-disease
     
     It was a paper on amyloid-β oligomers.
   • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅 (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:08:22 JST 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅

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     @LukeAlmighty @Shadowman311 If you ask a physicist what the shape of the earth is, and his response is “a sphere”, are you going to throw up your hands and say “well, we can’t trust physicists now. Maybe the flat earthers are right…” since it’s not technically a sphere (it’s an oblate spheroid), or do you still recognize that even though they both technically gave wrong answers, one is still clearly more qualified than the other?

     Obviously, you can still make that distinction, and it’s the same with doctors, who until very recently were clearly more qualified to give medical advice than an AI language model. What were they supposed to be using to assess this shit over the past few years? The perfect AI doctor that doesn’t even exist yet?

   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:08:22 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave @Shadowman311
     Why the fuck do you drag flat earthers into this?

     Ok, You made your point of being bad faith on this topic. What a shame, since I love the topic of selecting correct scientific experiments so much.

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   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:08:23 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     @dave @Shadowman311
     You say "obviously", except that was the entire methodology.

   • 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅 (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:08:24 JST 🎅 🎄 Festive Dave 🎄 🎅

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     @LukeAlmighty @Shadowman311 It’s not the final goal though? The tweet was highlighting the rapid pace of improvement, not asserting that % of answers deemed correct by a doctor is the be-all end-all for determining correctness of medical advice.

     Hell, we’ve had areas where AI algorithms outperform the pros at certain tasks (such as certain types of cancer detection) for years now. Obviously doctors aren’t the ultimate arbiter of truth.

   • LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:08:25 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     cc @dave
     This os the exact kind of thing I meant, when I said, that parity with doctors diagnosis is not a goal you should be aiming for.

   • blaaablaaaa (blaaablaaaa@hermit.cafe)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:18:46 JST blaaablaaaa

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     Yeah academia is super cliquey too, groups huddle together to discredit others, mess with their peer review, funding etc. There is some claim that once the professors are tenured they will start branching out into unexplored/dangerous realms more but that's not true at all since they've built their entire careers and reputation/legacy off of whatever normie (generally useless) thing they're researching. After decades of living in this system they won't change since they're scared of being ridiculed by their peers still.
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   • blaaablaaaa (blaaablaaaa@hermit.cafe)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:18:47 JST blaaablaaaa

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     I've said before that peer review is a joke, you get to select who reviews your paper and who isn't allowed to review your paper (to some extent). Scientists pay the journal to publish/"review" it, paper locked behind paywall, and scientist don't get any of that money.
   • fluffy (fluffy@baraag.net)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:18:47 JST fluffy

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     @blaaablaaaa @Shadowman311 @SpoopyAnon
     What you're describing sounds familiar, doesn't it.

     Something exists » popular opinion rates it

     It's just academic cancel culture.

     It's in everything, every aspect of “society” and so ubiquitous and ingrained that nobody notices the obvious anymore.

     There isn't a facet to civilization unscathed from the corruption of this type of influence.

     If enough sheep are loud enough, then even the truth is bleated out.

   • SooopyAnon (spoopyanon@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 03:18:48 JST SooopyAnon

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     @Shadowman311 Peer reviewed peepee poopoo.
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   • Berlusconi Anime Fever :sonnenrad: (mechasilvio@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 05:54:34 JST Berlusconi Anime Fever :sonnenrad:

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     @Shadowman311 I've been saying for a long time peer review is totally anti-science and should be curbstomped. We need a system where incentives and money are in either replicating some process or prove some currently used thing to be wrong. Pure confrontation and rivalries in science!
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 05:54:34 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @MechaSilvio @Shadowman311 Sounds like a use case for crypto, actually

   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 06:06:36 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @teknomunk @MechaSilvio @Shadowman311 Maybe not actual solution use case, but more like “pie in the sky crypto use case” where you have some shitcoin that fractionalizes discoveries and provides yields based on activities that strengthen the validity of findings or commercialization.

     You could make some funky, complex model that would basically be like, mini stocks in a discovery, or a line of work, with ownerships of a mini-llc type of thing (nft?) for the people involved, which would then be referenced later on by other projects using it.

     Super, super embryonic idea, but I could see a vague shape in the mist that would have some semblance of working, in an ideal world.

   • teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 06:06:52 JST teknomunk

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @MechaSilvio @Shadowman311
     > use case for crypto
     
     How so? What does the replacement system look like, where would the funding come from and what are the expected incentives?
   • BT (eltigre@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 07:23:28 JST BT

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @teknomunk @MechaSilvio @Shadowman311 That's an interesting concept and could be a better model than the current system if all the flaws were ironed out. Could also provide a counterparty system that incentives disproving a flawed model where you could get a fraction of that pot if you can conclusively blow the whole thing out of the water.
   • Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 07:23:28 JST Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks

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     @ElTigre @teknomunk @MechaSilvio @Shadowman311 Yeah, it feels like there could be something there, though the schools would undoubtedly stand in the way since they own their IP. Would be very complex, but it would at least put a thing into place where you could create a more robust system for backyard inventors

   • teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 07:40:10 JST teknomunk

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     @WashedOutGundamPilot @ElTigre @MechaSilvio @Shadowman311 Beyond them owning existing IP, the schools would do everything in their power to destroy it, because it would remove them from a gatekeeping position, and owning the future is more vaulable than owning the past.
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   • Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 12:56:06 JST Ademan

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     Don’t worry it was just one paper I’m sure it’s nothing systemic 😏

   • LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 12:56:06 JST LS

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     @ademan @Shadowman311 let me recommend this book again: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34799271-rigor-mortis