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Aie. Just when I was satisfied with the level of hate.
- luithe and :awoo_tired: shotgun snuggler :clownpiece_smug: like this.
- luithe repeated this.
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@TopBep Wait isn't that guy the one Halo says is an industry plant?
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So as expected, it's an extremely weak argument.
He poses a hypothetical that there could be a f2p live service game that would be mass targeted by bots, with the intention of the botter being to force the developer to shut down the game by making it unprofitable. For an example of mass bots, he uses TF2 which is a terrible example because TF2 has real money involved that makes it appealing to botters trying to make money off of trading.
Still, his hypothetical carries on by saying that the botter can then take the legally acquired server binaries and then host and monetize the game they just shut down. He also, for some reason that baffles me, points out that this is done today already, just that "this would make it legal" somehow. The answer to how you stop someone from monetizing it is simple, enforce your copyright. I think he realizes this because he then asks "what if the company goes away" the answer is still that whoever holds the copyright just enforces their copyright.
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@Moto_Chagatai Yes, we're all in agreement here that he's an industry plant, sadly this is not common enough knowledge and of course without a document stating explicitly that he's an industry plant many normies will simply choose to remain ignorant
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Looking through the comments because I enjoy being upset at people who disagree with me while also being retarded and I see this comment.
This feels like a dev just self-reported that their game has no end of life plan :INTJ_Stare:
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>look
>mixed reviews
>marketed as an MMO, then swerved to 3-player co-op after taking the money
>removing PAID items from accounts with no compensation
I for one can't believe such fine upstanding devs support the grifter's video.
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@Suzu It's still incredibly dishonest, just because the consumer is retarded doesn't make what the dev did okay.
If the game is single player offline then why the self report, if they made the transition already without the need for law, what's the reason for supporting pirate software's video? So bizarre.
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@TopBep to be fair to Wayfinder, it seems that it was never going to be a full MMO, it was going to be a coop game with MMO elements, whatever the fuck that means.
And it seems that they "fixed" their game in relation to the beta, removing the live service stuff, battlepass and microtransactions, and just straight up sell you the game with everything being able to be unlocked inside, like the good old days. And, by what I understood, the game is perfectly playable single player offline. So, overall, it seems they changed the game for the better.
This thing about deleting stuff people bought sucks and is kinda scummy, but:
- the stuff people bought wasn't removed from the game, it's still there but as an unlockable instead of a microtransaction, maybe that's why devs can't just "give it back".
Of course, this change in monetization while keeping the money spent by people is very scummy, but my second point is:
- if you buy microtransactions for a game that is in alpha (it was not even early access, it was the first draft of the game), you deserve to be scammed.
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@TopBep I don't get why he feels the need to keep doubling down on this. Is he so insecure about his arguments that he thinks they'll all be wrong if he refuses to keep making them?
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@TopBep What the fuck is this argument? I just wanted a quick laugh, not utter confusion.
Is he seriously saying that should this law get passed, people will DDoS, hack, use bots, etc, in all live service games just to force them to end instantly, all so that some guy can take the binaries and make profit off a private server? He's completely misunderstood the base idea behind this, forcibly asserting that this law will legalize private servers making money off IPs they don't own. This isn't true, at all. This is something that would absolutely be resolved early on, you don't own the IP just because you can run server.exe.