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1. LoliHat (lolihat@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 04:59:58 JST LoliHat
   https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/19/24181214/eu-chat-control-law-propose-scanning-encrypted-messages-csam
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   • :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab: (tamamo@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 04:59:56 JST :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab:

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     @Suzu @LoliHat
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   • Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 04:59:57 JST Suzu :miku_happy:

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     @LoliHat I love it that they use the scary monster of "csam" to pass every draconian, privacy destroying law they can, because it makes it harder to complain. "Oh, you don't want us to scan every single message you send? What are you, a PEDO?". "Oh, you don't want us recording the screen of all your electronic devices 24/7? What are you, a PEDO?" "Oh, you don't want us to put cameras inside your house watching your every movement? What are you, a PEDO?" "Oh, you don't want to have the brain implant allowing us to detect what you are thinking and kill you remotely if you don't do exactly what we want? What are you, a PEDO?".
     
     As if "scanning every message and destroying encryption" will be limited to find csam, and not used to monitor and censor any form of dissent in the future.
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   • ninja8tyu (ninja8tyu@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 05:10:21 JST ninja8tyu

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     @Tamamo @Suzu @LoliHat there was a research article i found about how it's always been used to advocate for restriction of rights, even when its harm doesn't exist
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   • :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab: (tamamo@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:01:23 JST :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab:

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     @Spooke @DarkMahesvara @LoliHat @Suzu @ninja8tyu Even back then Millennials that were proficient with computers were a minority.
     
     Most people were idiots that just threw up their hands "i'm not good with computers haha :retard:" when you were fixing their XP box that was slow as hell because it had a fuckton of spyware on it.
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   • DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:01:24 JST DarkMahesvara

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     @ninja8tyu @Spooke @LoliHat @Suzu @Tamamo people not caring or being not educated about these issues is by design at least since the 2000s. people are more easily controlled that way.
     
     its the same with all the proprietary software lobbying in schools. get the cattle used to it when they young so they never know what they lost.
   • SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:01:24 JST SpookerZ

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     • ninja8tyu
     @DarkMahesvara @ninja8tyu @LoliHat @Suzu @Tamamo aren't we already seeing techfade right now due to gen alpha and zoomers largely just only using brain rotting easy to use smartphones.
     
     They have issues with ports and basic computer stuff that we the late zoomer/millennials grew up with.
   • ninja8tyu (ninja8tyu@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:01:25 JST ninja8tyu

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     @Spooke @LoliHat @Suzu @Tamamo i doubt anyone's gonna believe that even if it's true and how about it's happened to every slowly-becoming-major place coincidentally to the point it may as well be guaranteed
     
     the best way i can think of to solve this problem is simply radical change, and solving how it ever got to this point to begin with
   • SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:01:26 JST SpookerZ

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     @ninja8tyu @Tamamo @LoliHat @Suzu I mean the favourite tactic of bad actors is that they use csam to take down dissident platforms to begin with.
     
     They upload the offensive material and the immediately report you to your upstream and you get bent.
     
     Also scanning of your files iirc there was a recent case where a parent was locked out of their gmail account because they sent an image of their child's rash to the doctor and they got flagged for it.
   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:06:28 JST Kyonko802

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     @Tamamo @Spooke @DarkMahesvara @LoliHat @Suzu @ninja8tyu I still have nightmares about that post where a zoomer didn't even know how file folders worked
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   • Suzu :miku_happy: (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:07:13 JST Suzu :miku_happy:

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     @Kyonko802 @Tamamo @DarkMahesvara @LoliHat @Spooke @ninja8tyu because phones, specially iOS devices, completely hide and abstract folders.
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   • :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab: (tamamo@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:08:01 JST :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab:

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     @ninja8tyu @DarkMahesvara @LoliHat @Spooke @Suzu I was the "computer guy" until i started charging family members that were not my parents because i was sick of those retards fucking up their computer within a day after i fixed it.
     
     Funny how they suddenly learned how to google shit after that.
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   • ninja8tyu (ninja8tyu@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:08:02 JST ninja8tyu

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     @Tamamo @Spooke @DarkMahesvara @LoliHat @Suzu exactly what the hell differentiated my sister and the rest of my generation from me who knows at least basic tech skills?
     
     it's not like we were raised up in different environments, if anything, i was raised in a worse one
   • :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab: (tamamo@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:24:01 JST :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab:

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     • Suzu :miku_happy:
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     • SpookerZ
     @DarkMahesvara @Spooke @LoliHat @Suzu @ninja8tyu Our school had Macintoshes with At Ease that looked like this. All applications were just on that launcher so students didn't learn much about the thing actually worked.
     
     Funny enough you could get out of that environment and get full access to the machine by simply invoking the force quit command with command-option-esc.
     The school's system admin hated my fucking guts because i abused that exploit to install my own shit :guraKekw:
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   • DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:24:02 JST DarkMahesvara

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     @Spooke @LoliHat @Suzu @Tamamo @ninja8tyu yes but it does not need to be this way, the education system is uniquely complicit this way only in this field. children still start learning math by hand despite more advanced tools like calculators existing for decades and anybody using them at home. When it comes to teaching computer technology the only way they allow are the walled gardens of apple, google and microsoft where the next generation gets sold to the highest bidder by corrupt teacher and politicians
   • :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab: (tamamo@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:30:50 JST :tamamo_dab:Tamamo:tamamo_dab:

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     • Suzu :miku_happy:
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     @LoliHat @DarkMahesvara @Spooke @Suzu @ninja8tyu We had DOS machines too. (Yes our school was about 10 years behind in tech) Some little shit made it so when you tried to launch the dos shell menu it was just print "lmao" for ever on screen. :doge_laugh:
     
     In retrospect i feel sorry for the poor sod who had to maintain the schools machines.
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   • LoliHat (lolihat@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 06:30:51 JST LoliHat

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     @Tamamo @DarkMahesvara @Spooke @Suzu @ninja8tyu
     
     Make start with a command prompt with no GUI environment.