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demonofustio (demonofustio@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:00:09 JST 
demonofustio
@lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder Fnished reading it. Wow just wow. What a dark reality to set on our military. To think this began so early is just jaw dropping to say the least. They removed power of authority for the NCOs the sergeants and some officers to mold the troops into bad asses. From not being able to be rough and tough to
"I have to smile to the new recruits." Is not how i envisioned the US military as it should be. I was expecting more Ermee Lee Gunnery SGt of breaking the mortal man into being a hell dawg. Wow that is not the case. This is an eye opener!-
leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:00:08 JST 
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@demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder I don't think this military is prepared to fight Russia. -
Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:00:08 JST 
Lichelord Godfrey
@leespringfield1903 @demonofustio @Gran3Walder Despite everything I posted here the US military is still a behemoth and none of the other powers want to be the ones to provoke WW3 or a nuclear exchange.
They all also have their own domestic problems, some of which are unique to them.
But I am fairly confident that if the US military were to go to war, real war (not plausible deniability special ops/mercenaries shit) against Russia, or Iran, or China, it'd be the last war this country does abroad with any amount of effectiveness.
It might even win the military conflict aspect of the war but.. occupation? lmao
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Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:05:32 JST 
Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
@leespringfield1903 @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder We often underestimate it though. The cold war funneled the very brightest of our men into building the most robust, prepared homeland war that's ever existed. Those preps didn't just disappear, we're using them to this day, shipping artillery rounds from 1960's aid abroad to blow up russians.
The rot has seeped into our bones, but we still have an amazing, awe-inspiring number of them. There are too many variables at play to really give it to china/russia in a battle. They would have to strike hard and fast, and break our political will without inflaming a bunch of us to join the fight. Doable, yeah, but not guaranteed.
Our big chinks right now are our lack of heavy sealift capability, which hampers our mobility in projecting land power abroad. Our dependence on foreign ports in the pacific, possibly, and our unpreparedness for an all-drone war stand out against the chinese. Against russia it's the difficulty in moving the army over there quickly, and keeping us mobile without heavily relying on the air force to ship everything overnight as attrition sets in. Then a prolonged conflict would add a lot of wildcards, as untested, next gen wunderwaffe gets pushed to the limits of readiness against a tech sophisticated foe.
It's very interesting to chew on, a thousand variables. Most of all: Luck. You never know when the die comes up with a 6 on your enemy's turn
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Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:16:09 JST
Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
@leespringfield1903 @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder An interesting corrolary to WWII. The japs hoped to break us swiftly, inflict enough damage we shrugged and figured it would be easier to give them their domain than fight them for it.
The germans hoped that we'd watch from afar, grossly underestimating the level of communist control over our government, and absolutely overestimating the effect public opinion had. I could understand why they'd enter 1938 seeing a huge fraction of american-germans and a generally isolationist country as a surefire call that we'd stay out of the war.
But 6 years later they'd be interviewing GI's in france and hearing them say "tbh I don't know why I'm here, I was only really wanting to fight the japs"
It would be interesting to see a true axis where a war starts and china embargos the US, everyone starts hoarding oil, and everything tips on its head overnight. Things would be VERY hard to imagine there. We pretend we're in a real fight with the east right now but it's just proxy war compared to what they can do, holding so much debt, providing so much of our medication, our industry, our living materials. Cut off the flow of shipping and suddenly we learn you can't live off an economy based on Cisco IT systems and Goyslop media generation
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Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:28:18 JST
Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
@leespringfield1903 @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder .......there's no way that's from the farms today. They used to hate longposters like that. Pleasantly surprised anyone's still there to talk about that stuff.
That new drone ban will be a boondoggle. Skydio wrote it (so I hear) but I'm positive all they do is slap together chink parts here and tack on a $3,000 price tag
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leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:28:19 JST
leespringfield1903
@WashedOutGundamPilot @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this. -
Bunsen (bunsen@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:52:16 JST 
Bunsen
@demonofustio @leespringfield1903 @WashedOutGundamPilot @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder Yep. The sinking of these mighty beasts was beyond tragic. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this. -
leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:52:17 JST
leespringfield1903
@demonofustio @WashedOutGundamPilot @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder The Bismark got pwned because it's rudder was blown off. -
demonofustio (demonofustio@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:52:17 JST
demonofustio
@leespringfield1903 @WashedOutGundamPilot @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder The Yamato and Musashi was pwned because of 350 planes yeesh. -
demonofustio (demonofustio@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 10:52:18 JST
demonofustio
@WashedOutGundamPilot @leespringfield1903 @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder "All it takes is one lousy god damn torpedo to find its mark and ruin your fing game at the start!!!"
~Demon : World of Warships.Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this. -
demonofustio (demonofustio@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 11:02:39 JST
demonofustio
@Bunsen @leespringfield1903 @WashedOutGundamPilot @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder and it took close to 6 to 7 hours to sink the damn thing both of them -
Bunsen (bunsen@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 11:02:42 JST
Bunsen
@demonofustio @leespringfield1903 @WashedOutGundamPilot @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder They were powerful beasts. -
leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 11:02:42 JST
leespringfield1903
@Bunsen @demonofustio @WashedOutGundamPilot @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder The power of aviation destroyed sea power in the end.
Not treaties like the Washington naval treaty lol to reduce war ship tonnage. -
Bunsen (bunsen@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 11:02:42 JST
Bunsen
@leespringfield1903 @demonofustio @WashedOutGundamPilot @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder Aviation definitely changed the course of history in that war. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this. -
Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 11:03:58 JST
Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks
@leespringfield1903 @Bunsen @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder IDK where my old threads are but I've ruminated that we're set to see the carrier sunset in comparison. Just like the guys waltzing into WWII thinking battlehships would win the day, we might be set up for a real historical bitchslap when it turns out the age of carriers is done and gone
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Innsmouth_Noticer (innsmouth_mayor@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 11:06:54 JST 
Innsmouth_Noticer
@WashedOutGundamPilot @leespringfield1903 @Bunsen @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder If Yemen is anything to go by, it isn't looking good for carriers. Woggy's Zeonic Frolicks likes this. -
leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 05:47:28 JST
leespringfield1903
@EdBoatConnoisseur @WashedOutGundamPilot @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder Imagine fighting a war against the nation that has the blue prints for your weapons lol.
Sun Tzu's laws of war cannot be violated.
And Israel has given blueprints of American weapons to China as well, but the Israeli dicking sucking keeps that out of the media or the political class.
And a lot of right wing smoothbrains still think America Stronk as well and it can bounce back if current trends remain. -
EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 05:47:28 JST 
EdBoatConnoisseur
@leespringfield1903 @WashedOutGundamPilot @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder found the screencap
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EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 05:47:29 JST
EdBoatConnoisseur
@leespringfield1903 @WashedOutGundamPilot @demonofustio @lichelordgodfrey @Gran3Walder Didn't the cat got outta the bag that even the himars missiles use components that only china manufactures.
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