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寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 21:03:32 JST 寮 Making simple JewTube videos in current year is seemingly difficult
I2P: http://ryocafe.i2p/blog/simple-jewtube-videos-very-hard/
Tor: https://social.076.moe/url/168571- Wrongthink and たかし like this.
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Trolerus Cognitus (troler@social.076.moe)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 21:18:57 JST Trolerus Cognitus I've been making videos for 8 years. With breaks of course. I used to chase fame. Now I upload articles and sometimes videos after 4 or 5 months. -
寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 23:08:03 JST 寮 Meanwhile on IRC:
│21:19:31 anelace | I know of actually one case on jewtube where a certain group of people do not post videos containing 90% of spam. That is right - pajeets. -
Wrongthink (wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 10:50:29 JST Wrongthink @ryo Perfect timing on this
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Wrongthink (wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 10:51:02 JST Wrongthink And I can’t believe I’m now saying that I actually miss the days when one could search up a technical measure on YT and be met with a bunch of screen capture videos by Indian kids with trance music blasting, who communicate everything concisely through a text editor.
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Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 11:35:27 JST Terminal Autism I haven't made more videos because of my living conditions (cramped environment, constant noise outside, system source problems, and more bullshit), but I want to make more (old school stuff, because for the most part I hate the "professional" way of doing anything (though there are exceptions, some high-effort videos made in a more "professional way are very good, but those are different, because again, high-effort, the people making them put a shitload of effort into them, it's not just disposable consoomer trash), videos were way better in the 2000s and even very early 2010s), and they won't be on YouTube. It's just not worth it.
You may not know this, but you actually have to dox yourself to post videos longer than 15 minutes long (unless they changed that). You have to send them a picture of a credit card, or maybe a driver's license, to remove that limitation. So, either you dox yourself, or you have to split videos into multiple parts like it's the 2000s again (but only in the bad ways).
There's no real reason to use YouTube at this point. I'd rather just use Odysee. Not like I have delusions of popularity anyway, that generally doesn't happen anymore unless you are a normalfag and make trash and have no self-respect.
Though of course, to be clear, there are people that still make videos I like. Weird and crazy anime and game videos, including gigantic analysis videos, videos about hardware, videos of random nobodies that I happen to like rambling about random things. There's still a lot of good stuff, there's just a much lower ceiling when it comes to how popular it can get, and it's much harder to find because YouTube is not going to want you to see the guy that gets 100 views per video, it's going to want you to see LinusSoyTips and fucking CNN.
Here is a good video, by the way, just as a treat and as an example and evidence of good things:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lM7FkXPIM5o
To me there's not really that much of a lack of good stuff. Especially when I watch videos so many times (and go back to old videos so much). There are hour long videos that I have rewatched (technically mostly relistened, after the first time, unless visuals really matter, but the video can always be to the side) close to 10 times. It's just how I am, I guess. People get tired of things much more easily than I do. I tend to enjoy a lot of things more, as I do them more times. When I can get so much enjoyment out of single videos, quantity becomes less of a concern, though I'm sure that there are tons of obscure channels that get no views out there, that contain things I would like.
The reality is... there are two different internets, used by completely different types of people and in different ways, but also, even within YouTube itself, there are some people that are more on our side of the internet than the mainstream side. And there are people that really don't give a fuck about making YouTube their "career", and those are the good ones a lot of the time. -
寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 13:49:44 JST 寮 > You may not know this, but you actually have to dox yourself to post videos longer than 15 minutes long (unless they changed that). You have to send them a picture of a credit card, or maybe a driver's license, to remove that limitation.
Never had to deal with that, because I joined in early 2006 (so I was one of the earliest adaptors in Asia as a whole), right before the 10 minute limitation was imposed, and they launched the Director programme which lets you remove that limitation, and all you had to do was just ask.
Half year later they deleted that programme, but those who already joined were still allowed to keep the privileage of uploading up to 4 hours of video instead of just 11 minutes (officially it was 10, but they actually let you upload up to 11 minutes).
Then in 2010 they raised 10 (11) to 15 (15:30) minutes, and then they just removed it completely soon after.
But I think they didn't require a dox back then, so no idea when they started requiring it.
> I'd rather just use Odysee.
I'd rather just write my own software and serve .ogv files.
Oh wait, I do: http://ryocinema.i2p/
> there are two different internets
I'll count:
1. Clearnet.
2. Tor.
3. I2P.
4. Zeronet.
5. Freenet.
6. IPFS.
7. Lokinet.
And some more.
I don't count Gemini and Gopher, simply because they're not separate internets, they're protocols going over the already existing internets.
> making YouTube their "career",
Which is a massive mistake they're making.
At most it should have been just a side job which you do alongside your day job.
It's only a matter of time when they get deplatformed, demonetized, or otherwise simply lose their popularity.
The average give a fuckness span of your average JewTuber is only 4 years, and perhaps up to 2 years of climax, until eventually the new kid takes over.
Only PewDiePie and Hikakin get to enjoy long term popularity, but perhaps these 2 are very deeply in bed with JewTube anyway.
Not even their predecessors (NigaHiga and Smosh) and their predecessor (Fred) were able to keep their popularity up for this long! -
Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 16:10:33 JST Terminal Autism I didn't have an account until the early 2010s, and I deleted accounts and made new ones all the time, to me they were always disposable. And I didn't post anything until 2021 (a video telling people that I was shadowbanned from commenting, and that I moved to Odysee, and it's definitely underrated because I actually bothered making it look cool).
And yeah, now I remember the limit being raised to 15 minutes. And it being removed as well, that was a huge deal for let's play channels that I watched. Going from LPs that were over 100 videos long because of the time limit, to fewer gigantic videos. Also in some cases gigantic videos, but still 100 of them, because people could do truly insane challenges in games, that took a long time to complete, or do LPs of ridiculously long games.
Also, I meant two different internets less in terms of protocol, and more in the sense of different worlds of different people. Right now we are on the web, but this is a very different part of the internet than what most people are on. And even in the case of YouTube, there are small obscure channels of people that don't go to the usual places, other than YouTube itself just to upload videos.
Anyway, I think AI will be the death of the "professional" JewTuber, it's only a matter of time. Just wait a few years, and the internet will be flooded with computer-generated videos, and no human will be able to compete, and eventually there will be so many of them that it will all be monetarily worthless. Also, the restrictions will become absolutely insane, because not even Google can host infinite videos.
Also, I actually think that the biggest JewToobers are less likely to last more than the usual than people that are just reasonably popular and have more of a niche and a more dedicated fanbase. There are LPers that I know that have been around since the 2000s and that are reasonably popular. Though most doing gaming stuff moved on to streaming. https://social.076.moe/url/170294 -
寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 16:15:26 JST 寮 Now that you mentioned Let's Plays, I remember them, and they were so big, channels that refused to have commentary in their gameplay videos got shamed into doing it (and only a few resisted the pressure).
And then Nintendo, Scamco, and a few other AAA companies came in and went like "OBJECTION!! If you make videos of our games, we demand your ad revenue then!", which effectively killed the whole Let's Play meme. -
🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 16:40:12 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 @ryo @terminalautism disagree, it was streaming that did. You're looking it from a japanese pov, and those companies backed off except for shittendo from trying to go after westerners.
Streaming meant you could interact with your audience and do whatever you want instead of committing. So of course it replaced let's playing and then irl streaming happened. -
寮 (ryo@social.076.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 17:09:01 JST 寮 I once thought of doing streaming using OwnCast (kind of like Twitch, but self hosted and federated), but I absolutely suck at spoken English, and even more so at talking into a microphone.
And text to speech requires me to type while playing at the same time, so that too is not an option.
Then we go to speech to text to speech, but that's like using a microphone to avoid using a microphone. -
Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Feb-2023 12:06:21 JST Terminal Autism A lot of the LPers that have been around for the longest time have a lot of LPs of Nintendo games, though, so, it was possible to survive that. I think it was mostly streaming. That and YouTube itself going to shit also killed review channels like CGR. -
Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Feb-2023 12:20:54 JST Terminal Autism It's very unfortunate that this happened, because streams are generally pretty shit. They are not as consistently entertaining as an LP is, and are also less about the gameplay, if that makes sense. Reading shitty chat and donations definitely doesn't help. Even good ones can't possibly contain as much fun-per-second as a really good LP most of the time, and the really good moments get lost unless they are clipped or turned into videos that I will pretty much always watch over the actual stream. LPs are a lot more dense in substance. there's not as much nothing going on.
There are good streams of course, but in many cases you can't possibly watch all of it unless you stop playing games or doing other things and make watching streams your main hobby. Though I guess you can just put them to the side and play the same game yourself at the same time.
Another problem with them is that you can't possibly go back and watch all the previous ones. So, streams are inherently much more disposable entertainment. Of course, other than the really good ones, again, that can be more like LPs. There are exceptions, there are some streamers that I really like, most of which post their stuff on YouTube anyway. -
🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Feb-2023 13:09:32 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 The real content is when you get shit like DSP fapping on stream. Now that is some prime khantent. -
Nigbot (nice-nigger@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Feb-2023 13:10:05 JST Nigbot who fuck my chicken?? :latin_cross: -
Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:03:28 JST Terminal Autism I remember that. Is DSP still around? That man is a survivor, he has been around for so long. He actually has made some pretty good videos. I ran into a couple old reviews of his from the early (to mid?) 2010s last year, and I liked them, pretty good.
He was memed a lot for his videos being bad, and I guess they mostly are, but the fact that he has made anything of value at all makes him above average these days. I'd rather watch him than most of the shit on the front page of most Invidious instances.
The biggest problem with him that I remember is that he was incapable of admitting that he fucked up, it was always the game's fault. And the fact is that it's impossible to improve and get good at anything if you don't recognize what you're bad at. Doesn't help that he shit-talked people too much in the past. I guess a lack of humility is/was DPS' biggest character flaw. Maybe he has addressed that, though, I wouldn't know. -
🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 17:40:01 JST 🌲Number 1 Pleroma Criminal on XBL 🇵🇱|🇺🇸 He's still around, still hasn't changed, still manages to not give a shit.
Unlike Wings or LTG who are making videos whining about shit or in the case of LTG, being suicidal after telling people to kill themselves (and being banned from YT), DSP just exists and keeps on streaming, using it to fund his WWE gacha addiction.