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https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1793823571103596935
Everything Fuentes does makes sense if you consider that he's a gay fed who wants to start RW infighting.
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@night
All Sailer did was say the Holocaust happened and somehow this is proof he's part of a Jewish conspiracy.
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lmao auron showing his jew card because another jew's getting trolled over being an obvious jew
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@LittleTom @ArdainianRight I will take sailer over spic fuentes any day of the week
It is ok for your allies to not 100% ideologically align with you
And the holocaust narrative deprogramming is an long arduous process many are simply incapable of completing
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@VidMasterEon @ArdainianRight @LittleTom I'd also argue that pushing Holocaust skepticism on mainstream platforms is very much a high risk/low reward strategy. I'd rather Sailer successfully push race realism and drop lots of redpills that are relevant to people in their day-to-day lives (dealing with niggers).
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@ArdainianRight I don't know man.
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@ChristiJunior @VidMasterEon @LittleTom
Fuentes is a homosexual pederast who works for the feds. Obviously he's gonna go for tactical derailment of one of the most likable and normie-friendly DR figures.
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@ArdainianRight Why the fuck do anyone still support that faggot sperg? Yeah, he says some true things about women and Jews - so what? Plenty of people manage to be right on those issues, without sucking dick and being Drama addicts.
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@ChristiJunior They're teens on Discord who were dumb enough to take his van candy.
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@VidMasterEon @ChristiJunior @LittleTom
Literally just get people to openly declare that White people deserve to exist and should be able to protect their collective interests, and then the Steinbergowitz brigades mobilizing to shut them down should clue people in on the rest.
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@ChristiJunior @ArdainianRight @LittleTom Get race realism first to restablish White collective identity and you can hit the JQ on the way with culture of critique
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@ChristiJunior @VidMasterEon @ArdainianRight @LittleTom I have sympathy for Sailer, since he's not malicious and just a combative autist whose two hyperfixations are racial IQ and hating anything declassee. Same reason he whined incessantly about Trump in '16 and '20 despite him very obviously being the best option. That said, from an entirely practical standpoint, there are only two justifiable positions for a vaguely-neurotypical guy who wants to be useful.
> "I will ignore The One Thing that I'm not allowed to talk about because I can do more good by ignoring it and focusing on immediate symptoms. I may or may not hint at it in deniable ways, and will definitely not go out of my way to lie to my audience about it to try to sound smart or seek favor from the establishment, because that delegitimizes me in the eyes of my core supporters and is disrespectful to the rest of my audience"
> "I will talk about The One Thing, going out of my way to be calm, clearheaded, funny, and presentable about it. I know that I am representing a group of people that fear retaliation from the government and enumerable NGOs if they how their faces, so I will work out, dress well, and overall strive to be a positive face for this issue, given that I am the only one normies are likely to see."
Anyone actively countersignaling The Thing is probably malicious (barring immense autism like Steve's, I say that affectionately). Likewise, anyone trying to mark themselves as representatives of The Thing and then acting embarrassing are either controlled opposition or retarded (and probably promoted and protected from consequences without their knowledge).
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@ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @VidMasterEon Sailer is an autist who starts shit he shouldn't for autistic reasons (see @LittleTom 's pic). Fuentes is a self-promoter who starts shit he shouldn't to stay relevant. The wave of Twitter accounts dramatizing and escalating the "feud" are mostly jewish 'dissident right' people and their horde of suck-ups using Fuentes's poor tact as a justification to try to purge anti-semites from the movement they created, while deliberately creating more drama that Sailer would probably rather avoid.
E-celebs were a mistake. I have sympathy for Sailer because he never set out to become one, and everyone else involved in this shitshow did.
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@AmericanChampion @ChristiJunior @LittleTom @VidMasterEon
Auron MacIntyre is solidly in the first camp. I do think that a lot of JQ people push dubious, false, or exaggerated narratives that HBD autists instinctively push back against. But usually they at least come with funny memes.
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@AmericanChampion @ChristiJunior @LittleTom @VidMasterEon
Everything I've seen of him seems good. He gives off the impression of being one of /ourguys/ working within the rules of Boomercon media.
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@ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @LittleTom @VidMasterEon Auron is good or bad? I've been wary of him because he gets way overpromoted on Twitter, and that always seems to be a red flag, but I don't really know enough about him to have an opinion.
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@AmericanChampion @ChristiJunior @VidMasterEon @ArdainianRight @LittleTom the thing I'll say is it's good that the 'optics debate' have now become '~how~ you should do your antisemitism' opposed to 'should you do it' lole