Notices by Aven (aven@shitposter.club), page 2
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@lain I'd like to have a computer program simulate walking away from the screen and closing my eyes, in a sped-up time-frame, on my behalf.
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@lain every. gosh. darn. day.
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@lain that's how the quality of the industry improves from its current fallen state!
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@a7 @Moon that's an interesting insight. I think there are definitely people who are genuinely racist as a matter of principle and genuine belief, but a lot of them are social chameleons that just "when in Rome" with agreeableness, and will be racist or not-racist depending on what is socially acceptable.
It would make sense if agreeableness and outgroup-hate were correlated. Like they don't actually have an opinion, but just want to get along and be popular.
Also, maybe more to your point, there are covert racists who just don't want to get into it if there's a high social cost to speaking their true opinion. I wonder whether that can be simulated with AI.
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@lain Agreed. The boomers fell for some harmful "boomer myths" like housing prices always going up, like a university diploma being the key to success, like working too hard for retirement and then just pure leisure after retiring.
I honestly think the worst things they did for millennials was the snow-plow parenting and the pitying that started in 2008. It created a learned helplessness in millennials which is hard to un-learn.
The really poisonous thing is the other-ing (like they're a class in class-struggle) and attribution of malice (again, class struggle proxy) to the boomers. This I think is that 70% you're talking about.
It's remarkably similar to the Marxist stuff, like "eat the rich, but Bernie Sanders is cool", where Bernie Sanders is rich, but he's familiar. The same way the other-ing doesn't stick to one's parents. However, if some kind of hypothetical revolution happened against boomers, yeah, our parents would get the guillotine. It's the whole "this group is evil! ...present company excluded" thing.
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@thendrix @lain in fact Mao's Red Guards were the original "ok boomer"s
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@thendrix @lain it is, and "ok boomer" is great for breaking family ties.
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@Moon that actually sounds interesting. How did it work out?
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90's: "Break the cycle. End the oppression with mercy and forbearance. Be a better person than the one who hurt you."
2020's: "Can't wait to make things even worse for the next generation, in revenge against the boomers who made things terrible for my generation! Eye for an eye all the way, baby!"
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@Griffith that's a lie. Clearly you don't know anything about the great depression. Or WWII. Or "duck and cover". Or the 70's.
Things were definitely better in the 90's and 2016-2020.
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@thatguyoverthere @sim @coolboymew It's actually kind of terrifying to turn the role of a doctor or therapist into that of a "Yes Man", especially with a political bent. Imagine "affirming care" for someone with depression:
>I feel like I should kill myself
<Yes, well then you should, let's arrange that with MAID.
I think that if the current mental health profession were to tackle depression today, with a clean slate of no previous literature or history, they would call depression "trans-deader", because depressed people's self-actualization is to become dead.
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@sim That's a jaded take. It's true that any confidant, whether a friend or relative or lover, can provide a similar function to a therapist. However a therapist has training and practice in knowing what questions to ask what advice to offer, and can do some of the unpleasant work that can be straining if done with friends. Also the fact that they're not one of your current friends or relatives gives them a different perspective not constrained by the social circle.
So yeah, if you can get "deep talk" with someone you know, that's great. Not everyone has access to someone like that in their life, though.
I think such a blanket dismissal of therapy is motivated. I find it troublesome that in the current mental health crisis, all avenues for people to improve it are being simultaneously vilified:
Medication will hurt you
Therapist will hurt you
Self-help is a scam
Guess you should just doomscroll, to be safe.
I honestly think there is a concerted effort to increase mental illness and make everyone crazy.
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@kaia @lain also they use the accusation of 'jew' the exact same way progressives use the accusation of 'racist': as a Kafkatrap, wherein attempting to defend/deny is used as proof of the accusation.
In other words, in the same way as progressive accusations of 'racist', it doesn't mean 'racist', it means 'I am attacking you and you must be submissive and do as I say, because I claim moral superiority over you'.
It's also a thought-terminating cliche, great for derailing threads and silencing unwanted conversations.
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@lain @kaia I haven't looked in years, but I'm convinced that the purpose of r/JordanPeterson is to mock him and provide strawman versions of his arguments and his fans, to act as a caricature to steer people away from JBP.
Also, all of the "right wing" nazis who use the ((( cringe ))) are, without exception from what I've seen, in favor of government control of the economy and in favor of every progressive economic policy. I tend to think they are leftists "fellow kids"-ing conservatives and christians to promote a collectivist socialist "right wing" which is "right wing" only in that it's openly racist and loves to use paper-thin christian references as a cudgel. In other words, only "right wing" through a leftist's lens.
Reminder that Charlottesville was organized by Jason Kessler, who was a progressive who voted for Obama in 2008, who "switched".
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@eriner I've wondered, why not just use literal gold coins? Gold-backed requires a central location for the backing, which is a single point of failure to get Gaddafi'd.
People could just trade those CostCo gold tablets, and these days there must be an easy spectroscopy tool to verify that it's real gold element.
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@lain is that pre-rendered, or can the camera rotate around it?
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@thendrix wtf, I knew Biden's dog had been biting people, but I didn't know he's on his 3rd presidential dog. Champ, Major, and Commander.
>According to a Judicial Watch source "President Biden has mistreated his dogs. Judicial Watch has learned he has punched and kicked his dogs."
I mean it tracks, but yeesh. Abuse your dog, it bites people, it happens enough times that the dog gets put down, get new dog, repeat.
And of course PETA is silent. Of course they would be.
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@thendrix @kaia @lain well they've been told:
1) Trump bad.
2) Fox News bad.
3) All things in "bad" category are basically the same thing.
which is also why they use all the epithets interchangeably (racist, white supremacist, capitalist, patriarchy)
Also they're in a situation where they have no idea what Fox News says or thinks about anything, aside from what their filter bubble tells them it said. They'll never actually check the source for themselves, because that would taint them as Fox News-adjacent.
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@kaia all it's missing is the private message follow up to ask them out, now that they're single
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@conceptualjames communism also believed growth is good, and that it would do growth more and better than capitalism. The whole reason why workers of the world should unite was because they could get more growth, so much growth and hyper-abundance as to usher in post-scarcity for a leisurely prosperous future. The marxist idea was that the only reason a huge amount of growth wasn't happening for everyone is because capitalists were hoarding all the capital.
Now that communism has been shown to only create evil empires with little or negative growth, in the biggest pivot of "sour grapes" the world has ever seen, they've decided that maybe growth is actually a bad thing, which is why we need communism.
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