@ResidentEvil >IMHO there is no knowledge but models of reality, which exists (maybe) outside pulsating goo, which stuffs our skulls. You mean inside? Outside (and for many people (j.e. neurologists) inside) our skulls is the reality the goo inside our skulls is modeling.
>And there is no way to prove, whether any of these models are close to the real world or not because there is no cognizable "calibration sample" from the "real world". Wdym? We have sense data. We may not ultimately be able to trust it if you're being über-skeptical, but it's more or less all we have. @taoeffect@jeffcliff@thatguyoverthere
@thatguyoverthere >I think he was basically challenging the idea of "right" or "correct" answers being the ones you want to hear. Indeed, that is what I am doing. @taoeffect
@taoeffect Okay, but is it appropriate to offer monetary incentives for that supposed fool to realise their supposed foolishness? I don't think so. Seems rather demeaning to me. @thatguyoverthere
@taoeffect But you also seem to be saying it's an injustice to deny what you just said. The same fallacy is found w.r.t. to other believed (albeit true to the best of my knowledge in these cases) injustices, such as Tiananmen square, the Holocaust, etc. There should be a name for this fallacy where people go from "X is a tragedy/injustice/crime against humanity" to "believing X didn't happen makes you a bad person". @thatguyoverthere
@thatguyoverthere Interesting. But the thing is with that: businesses aren't going to voluntarily put up a sign saying that they are shit. So customers are going to have to look out for the absence of a sign rather than the presence of a sign. And that's not something people are used to doing. And it's easy to miss it if you're in a rush. If the ancap model is used for other things, the number of signs you have to look out for stacks up. @novid@jeffcliff@lnxw37b2@anti_disease