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1. 💉💉💉💉 (anti_disease@zeroes.ca)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 02:27:13 JST 💉💉💉💉

   Oh yes, the logical next step. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️

   #PoesLaw #CovidIsNotOver #COVIDisAirborne #covid19 @novid

   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 02:27:07 JST Hyolobrika

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     Idk. I think a sign like that could work. Most people *really want* their food to be clean. I don't think that policy would result in a race to the bottom where the companies that cut costs by doing that are rewarded and those that don't go out of business.
     What do you think?
     @novid @anti_disease @lnxw37b2

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   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 02:27:08 JST Jeff Cliff

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     https://www.cnn.com/2015/02/03/politics/tillis-washing-hands-bathroom/index.html christ this is real
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 02:27:33 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika @jeffcliff @novid @anti_disease @lnxw37b2 I can't even believe it needs to be legislated that people touching food have to wash their hands. I think those signs that tell employees to wash their hands probably are not the thing that makes a person remember. I don't know how many people have a witness when they go to the bathroom today to verify they've correctly followed protocol. We kind of put a bit of faith in people when we let them touch our food regardless of what laws might exist, and I can't imagine a scenario where you get sick and manage to prove that employee x didn't wash their hands.
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 03:00:57 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika @jeffcliff @novid @anti_disease @lnxw37b2 couldn't you just say there needs to be a sanitation policy and it needs to be available upon request or displayed for all patrons to see? It seems so obvious that you need to wash your hands when dealing with food I just don't see any reason to have such silly laws that then need to be enforced, technically up to the point of using deadly force. It might not even require mandating that your sanitation policy be public as long as the public knows anyone not willing to share their policy is probably doing gross shit to your food.
   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 03:00:58 JST Hyolobrika

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     @jeffcliff
     I showed this to someone and he pointed out that there would still need to be a law making sure they say that, which is pointless when you can just mandate handwashing directly.
     @novid @anti_disease @lnxw37b2

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 05:18:28 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika @novid @jeffcliff @lnxw37b2 @anti_disease that's why I said at the end that even that is excessive if people just demand it from businesses and refuse to engage with them otherwise.
   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 05:18:29 JST Hyolobrika

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     That would also require a law that needs to be enforced.
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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 06:55:55 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika @novid @jeffcliff @lnxw37b2 @anti_disease sure. I mean how do you know they are being honest now? The sign doesn't really mean all that much other than to check a box and satisfy the legal requirements and probably offer some protection for the business owner from liability. Sure rat poop inspectors take a look around from time to time, but no one stands over employees making sure they comply with the wash your hands rule. I would imagine most people [who are washing their hands now] would wash their hands without a sign. I also suspect there could be plenty of employees handling food who don't wash up (or at least don't do it properly) with it already being a legal requirement.
   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 06:55:56 JST Hyolobrika

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     How would they know if they're being honest?
     Ancap-style private certifiers?
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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 07:29:26 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @Hyolobrika @novid @jeffcliff @lnxw37b2 @anti_disease Yeah it would be a cultural shift. I guess I'm just not convinced that the signs we have today do anything. I've been to restaurants where the signage is damaged or missing and my first thought wasn't "Oh no how will the employees remember to wash their hands". When you dine out or let people touch your food (especially if you can't watch their every move) you are putting some faith in the hope that they won't poison you [with or without laws]. I honestly think that if a restaurant had a tendency to make people sick they wouldn't be around very long. Hell I imagine one food poisoning is all it really takes to ruin a small business. Somehow dole and all the big food distributors manage to do it with a bit of regularity and I don't think they get into much if any trouble.
   • hyolobrika@berserker.town's status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 07:29:27 JST Hyolobrika

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     Interesting. But the thing is with that: businesses aren't going to voluntarily put up a sign saying that they are shit. So customers are going to have to look out for the absence of a sign rather than the presence of a sign. And that's not something people are used to doing. And it's easy to miss it if you're in a rush. If the ancap model is used for other things, the number of signs you have to look out for stacks up.
     @novid @jeffcliff @lnxw37b2 @anti_disease