Notices by Ben Zanin (gnomon@mastodon.social)

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https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/113088683254075749 / @nixCraft

@mntmn *I point at the sign above me that says "this orientation is better for development" when someone walks by my desk and opens their mouth to comment on how I have one leg around the pneumatic pillar, the other over the armrest, lying on my back on the seat, looking up at the bottom of my desk where I have bolted my monitor*

@nixCraft *prints this on a poster board*

*turns that poster into a wearable sandwich board where the other side says "RESTORING ONE SINGLE FILE FROM THE BACKUP SERVICE TELLS YOU JACK SHIT ABOUT YOUR ABILITY TO HIT RESTORE TIME AND RESTORE POINT OBJECTIVES AND IS IRRELEVANT IN DETERMINING WHETHER SERVICE RECOVERY IS EVEN POSSIBLE"*

*parades in front of $JOB_IT_DEPARTMENT building just wordlessly screaming through a bullhorn at every single person entering or leaving*

@mntmn abort abort abort

@Gargron @mousebot 🥳 THERE ARE LITERALLY DOZENS OF US 🎉

@Gargron how many emacs nerds..?

cc: @mousebot

@mntmn :blobaww:

@mntmn aw hell, that's a terrible feeling, I'm sorry. ):

Way to decide quickly on a good path forward though. Nice recovery.

@kuba fantastic!! You're welcome! Thanks for giving me an opportunity to learn about this particular little stumbling block. I'll remember it for next time!!

@kuba If you consult the systemd documentation and the entries for $SYSTEMD_PAGER and $SYSTEMD_LESS¹ you'll find mention of some mysterious less(1) options but not what they mean or why they matter; but if you peek at the doc source code² you'll find that the behaviour you're describing is controlled by the presence of "K" in the default $SYSTEMD_LESS var, and you can override that out with, e.g.:

```
SYSTEMD_LESS='FRXM' journalctl
```

¹: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd.html#$SYSTEMD_PAGER

²: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/60a20eff8007105c4a09ab34ebe318d5970e629a/man/common-variables.xml#L112-L155

@kuba you're doing the right thing! Or at least you're doing what should produce the result you want according to the default configuration of less(1).

However you say you're invoking less "indirectly" with journalctl; do you mean you're running `journalctl ... | less`, or just running `journalctl` and letting it invoke less(1) itself as the default pager? If the latter, it's useful to know that systemd invokes less with some quite non-default options!

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/src/shared/pager.c

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@Gargron yooo, I was just there about five months ago!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FXnHGvXowvJMhifEA

@Gargron I'm going to end up doing that too, amn't I? The gravitational field at this point is nearly inescapable

I am NOT going to watch a four hour YouTube video about a star wars hotel

@mntmn hey @MmeLibertine dost thou perchance have drum & bass recommendations to share..?

@mntmn congratulations!!

@Gargron @k8eb I don't knooooow

But I think that in about *checks calendar, runs some numbers* five months I'll get back to you with an evaluation of that question

So @k8eb wants us to watch Spongebob

And, like

Ma'am. We are not going back and watching eleven seasons of this show.

...

...are we..?

@mntmn ah hell man, I'm sorry, I hope you're feeling better soon. Take care, rest well.

@Gargron it's been a whole year already?? That is WILD. Happy anniversary to you both!!