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@GabeLakmann @freemo
There were some toots where freemo acknowlegded that there are underlying problems. I'd say the discussion is pretty far off from any useful path, with guns as core topic.

@freemo You really think i do? Or am i misreading this and taking it personal for no reason?

@freemo Eh, if i stay on-topic, its bad. If i go off-topic by pointing out there is another, more important underlying problem, also bad.

I generally don't see guns as the reason there are problems, but immediately, less guns means less holes in people while the problems are being fixed. Nothing more.

@thatguyoverthere @stormy178 @MelodyCooper @BigTLarrity @GabeLakmann @Shadowbroker2135 @freemo Nukes. Nukes work, the guns are just part of the glass crater then.
(just joking, homie)

@thatguyoverthere @freemo Yep, what i had written before was also humorous in part. Homie.

@thatguyoverthere Is this about total nihilism or what exactly are you trying to tell me?

@thatguyoverthere That seems unprompted. @freemo only calling me out on bad faith arguments here?

@freemo @antares @thatguyoverthere
It amazes me that this seems to leas to one clear conclusion for you folks. Did i get that right, pilots with mental health issues should not be grounded? Or what exactly are you saying?

I would go the route with better help, not letting people become unemployed and forgotten, stuff like that.

And with guns, is your argument really to let people with some predisposition to impulsive violence have guns so seeking help would not be impeded?

@thatguyoverthere Well, "a shit decision" and showing signs that a repeat offense would be different things, and thus should be treated differently. That's where good laws need to get complicated, because life is complicated.

@thatguyoverthere @freemo @robryk It'd make a difference if the crime was related to violence if it is about gun rights.

"Shoot people in any non-self-defense situation, don't get guns again." Softer measure to stop further violence than life long imprisonment, and if further violence is to be expected, it must be stopped.

But voting rights are a must-have: this thing about taking them away is one of the reasons i do not consider the usa a democracy.

@thatguyoverthere @freemo @robryk Would it not be more important to reinstate voting rights? As far as i know, convicted felons don't get to vote after serving their sentence, is that right?

@bonifartius @thatguyoverthere @freemo Ah, now i'm on board again. "Lützerath", a german town with a coal quarry, has had those thugs. They forcefully removed peaceful protestors against the mining of coal unnecessary for our energy needs.

In truely american style, instead of peaceful protest, maybe lots of guns could have yielded a better result. Purely hypothetical, but humans killing other humans might just be better for the environment.

@thatguyoverthere Happy to amaze :-D

@thatguyoverthere What survivers? That mechanism doesn't work if people aren't killed by the numbers...

@thatguyoverthere Haha yeah, that was the point. Would you joke about being beheaded, if you were?

@freemo @thatguyoverthere Hmm, survivorship bias?

@thatguyoverthere @freemo Ah yes, now that you mention it, we have that all the time.
Just yesterday i had to have my head reattached, always such a hassle!

@freemo @thatguyoverthere That warm, peaceful feeling of not living in the usa ^^

@freemo @thatguyoverthere Sounds perfect, if the goal is to have a gun as a someone with rage control issues.

@freemo @thatguyoverthere
Well for the topic at hand, it would not exactly matter if a sale is public or private - just that background checks are performed.
Are private sellers liable for what is done with their gun until background checks are performed?
Sell to a loonie, get imprisoned for their murder, right?