Notices by pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com), page 55
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 01:24:58 JST 
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@PurpCat @mint @dcc @sysrq You blowin' it up for drama purposes. I was asked, I answered, I got objections, I answered. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 00:40:37 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@mint @dcc @sysrq
> As I said before, this is a non-issue unless you're trying to build up an echo chamber with minimal amount of discourse your clique disapproves of.
It's still wrong, for three reasons, one of them practical.
There are posts you want to see and posts you do not care about. You cannot put all of them in, so you have to prioritize somehow. "People on this server want to see this" is a pretty good criterion for whether or not you store something on the server.
If your server is populated by people that only want to see things they agree with, sure, you'll get an echo chamber, but you already had a shitty collection of people to begin with. I try to eat food that's reasonably healthy and tastes good, because there's finite space in my stomach. It's stupid to eat only candy like a hugbox instance, but it's also stupid to insist that a person should eat equal amounts of good food and poison. Someone replies to something, they (hopefully) put some thought into it, even if they disagreed, and those posts federate. A wrench-spammer puts zero thought into spamming wrenches and doesn't even read the posts that he's indicating his displeasure about: have I built some sort of echo chamber if I don't want to go out of my way to fetch shit even he didn't want to read?
Not just that, but the stupid hivemind "get a load of this guy" pile-on is exactly the echo chamber you are concerned about. The biggest echo chambers that exist here are the canceldon instances and places like nicecrew.digital and that kind of place thrives on reinforcing the echo chamber by engaging in the "two minutes' hate".
You are worried about a problem that does not exist on a server that is due to be replaced and in the mean time does not do anything to stop this problem.
> relays,
Well, you've heard what I have to say about relays. They're not super useful. I put FSE on a shit-ton of relays in 2019 to try to see something besides Gab on TWKN; TWKN was worse for it, it was flooded with shit nobody cared about.
> instance-wide relay
This kind of thing is useful, though.
> same mindset that contibuted to Akkoma
Akkoma is terrified that a member of the public might be able to see a public post. This is not the same as declining to go out of your way to get posts no one cares about.
> I was under the assumption that if an activity gets rejected by MRF, its referenced object never gets fetched to begin with.
Maybe it has been fixed since; rejected activities still pass through the pipeline. "Announce" activities from deactivated users still cause posts to federate here.
> by converting them into likes you're contributing
No, Pleroma federates Likes that originate on the server, but it doesn't pass them along second-hand.
> perceived problem.
TWKN has gone downhill; if I have perceived a problem, that's my perception, but that's more real than a perceived hypothetical non-problem. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 22:49:50 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@mint @dcc @sysrq I did say that when they first arrived on fedi, because my initial reaction to them was that they were lame and ugly and I didn't think too far past that. Having seen how that feature played out and how it affected federation, it seems like it was a mistake.
Since Pleroma populates TWKN with posts from people that someone on the server was following, and posts it saw a reference to, before it was just likes, reposts, replies, so it was all stuff that there was a good chance someone on your server wanted to see. This was brilliant, it's possibly my favorite feature, not because it was technically difficult, but because it required careful thinking and insight. It made TWKN better and didn't require anything complicated, no stupid machine learning dystopia, just a small amount of code to build a human-driven feature. When I saw "Likes federate in Pleroma", it made me really impressed with lain, right, like it takes a good head to come up with shit like that. Most programmers just bash code out and don't think about second-order effects, they think about individual features instead of how this sort of thing plays out in the broader system.
The reactions are an activity that creates a reference to a post that someone possibly *didn't* want to see, but also didn't want to expend the effort to reply to. So someone dumps a bunch of wrenches or red Xs over a big pile of posts that they hated seeing on TWKN, those posts (and the threads they are in) all federate to the servers where someone was following Eris^Wbot^Wthe person spamming reactions. It effectively undoes the cool feature. Posts that were undesirable or contentious would federate before, but because people won't usually click "like" or "repost" on something that they hate, and there's a practical limit to how many posts you can reply to, most posts that federated that way were posts that people on the server wanted to see, but it is very low-effort to just wrench 50 posts.
I can't undo that: other servers still send EmojiReactions to FSE and FSE still processes them, even if it rejects them or turns them into Likes or something. But I can avoid contributing to the problem for servers that have someone following FSE and avoid having to deal with the feature locally.
...Plus if you send too many EmojiReact messages, Opal will sue you.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 21:54:12 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@mint @dcc @sysrq
> since it doesn't even mention custom reacts.
Everyone would be happier if we all followed the example and forgot about custom reacts. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 21:47:07 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@mint
> remove BBS/SSH feature,
:alexjonescrying2: goddamn it
> replaced by an external bridge, sshocial.
:alexjonessmile2: git clone
> Authentication is a mandatory step and must use SSH pubkey.
> To perform pretty much any actions you must have a valid token in your possession.
:alexjonescrying2: goddammit
It *was* clever that the keys are authorized by a field in the account. Seems like it could fetch the token itself by taking a password, but fine, whatever, I can understand not wanting to ask for a password. But you need a token *and* a pubkey (in the user-visible section of your account's header, even). That's kind of a pain. Seems like you could just get a bearer token and then use the bearer token as the password, so you only need one thing and just one step: ssh server ties to auth with that token, stores it if it works. You'd also not get the problem it currently has where you can only log in
> favourite $ID
I'm sure as hell not tryna type "favourite" instead of "favorite", and I'm not tryna type "favorite" instead of "like" and I'm not tryna type "like" instead of just "l".
It *is* a lot cleaner to just use the HTTP API instead of internal API calls and embedding the thing in the Pleroma server. This is really cool stuff overall, duponin is always doing fun stuff like this. I probably won't use it, too much of it is less comfortable than the existing BBS feature, but it is cool. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 18:11:47 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@mint You can't push messages using tail and if you're gonna scribble on their TTY, you have to have either write permission or an intermediary. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 17:49:19 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@lainbot Hey, @sjw , it did a scary loli for Halloween. :ddr_u: -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 16:28:44 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
In which
:gibbysmile::hacker_f::hacker_s::hacker_e::glowing:
remains unironically committed to dumb ways of interacting with fedi, including/especially weird hacks that lain added to Pleroma as a joke but also @p has done something foolish:
Actually, let me stop right there. There was a post here and it has been removed and replaced with this post because it turns out that the patch itself was an ill-advised divergence.
I had a reason to add some stuff to the "bbs" interface but was typing up a post and said "That code changes rarely enough that it probably still applies cleanly to upstream" and I thought I should check that it has in fact not changed instead of speculating and it *has* changed and this patch probably does not apply cleanly because way better stuff has happened upstream (and I think I might have heard about this at the time and forgotten it) so I will have to (at some point in the future) undo this patch and then try to merge the other stuff from upstream because the upstream one can show threads and that's pretty cool. This one just added likes ("l $id"), reposts ("! $id"), and notifications ("cares", which is somewhat ambiguous until you reason that "cares" was shorter than "notifications" or "notifs" or "worries").
Anyway, I love bloat but had a reason to want to not run a browser to interact with fedi and the ssh client was missing just a little bit of stuff.
:9front::kenbw::pike::dmr::bwksmug::cirnoBaka: vt -x ssh -u p tcp!freespeechextremist.com!10022
:linux::crux::gentoo::archlinux: ssh -p 10022 $your_username@freespeechextremist.com
:freebsd::netbsd::openbsd::dragonflybsd: People think your OS is "weird Linux".
:win3_progman: I don't know, probably you can do this with putty, tell it FSE and port 10022 and your username.
:9front: This is the script I use to get to it from Plan 9: :cirnoSmug:
window -r 184 5 841 473 vt -f /lib/font/bit/vga/unicode.font -b -x ssh -u p tcp!freespeechextremist.com!10022
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 05:13:47 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
Had to stand up a server, was coordinating the setup with someone, fellow old-timey Unix guy. I shoved (as I usually do) some `figlet|tr|sed` thing into /etc/motd, he logged in and wall(1)'d me, I asked him if he remembered talk(1) on Solaris. Turns out that, although it has gone fallow about twenty years ago ( https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/networking/netkit , http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/ , needs patches to compile in $current_year), the Debuntu people still maintain it, so you can `apt-get install talk talkd` and it works and you can talk to each other.
I don't think I have used talk(1) since the 90s. I am completely delighted. I had a delightful experience.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 04:09:23 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@Maholmire @dcc @pwm :dongles: Yes. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 04:09:22 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@Maholmire Oh, you mean like a 4G modem, right? You can get those, you can get them as USB dongles, you can order a uConsole ( https://www.clockworkpi.com/uconsole ) and wait several months for it to arrive, they have a 4G modem option.
Don't quote me on this, but my understanding is that it is difficult to get them to do vox, but if you get one that has reasonable drivers, data and SMS work fine under Linux. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 23:16:10 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@Fever @Darbzilla @Formerly_Trucks @Sui @DutchBoomerMan @lonelyowl @Nicezilla Have you seen me say anything about either of those since the thing started? Nobody outside of maybe a dozen people on fedi is capable of talking about it without extreme emotional investment, just like the Russia/Ukraine shit.
You give one fact and the people whose "side" is at a disadvantage due to that fact will shit themselves and accuse you of being a supporter of the other side, they'll argue that the sky isn't blue. You say "Napoleon will have trouble unless he finishes up before the ground freezes" and thirty internet dipshits jump in and accuse you of being pro-Tsar or they try to argue that winter isn't really cold in Russia or ">implying he won't get there" or just "faget". You say anything.
And while we're on the topic, "supporter" my ass, nobody here is sending money there, nobody here is picking up a goddamn rifle, nobody on here is even in charge of deciding which direction their tax dollars go. It's another word for "suspected of wrong opinion", it's commie shit, and everyone is on that train is a retard.
So, to get to your question:
> I haven’t made a pro Palestinian comment yet.
I don't give a fuck but I'd rather you not bother me with it because I don't care who has what opinion on this fake war that will, best-case scenario, result in nothing but a giant sucking sound with money leaving everyone's pockets and being converted into dead dudes in the sand and bank accounts in the Cayman Islands, and in the worst case will be all of that plus a contributing factor to a third World War.
Anyone that is emotionally invested in Palestine or Israel is sucking the AIDS out of a psyopped dick and slurping so noisily that nobody can hear what anyone else
> when I do, are you going too tell on me?
I am going to do the same thing I always do: tell you I don't care, then ask you not to bother me with it, and then when those inevitably fail, I will respond with Plan B. Plan B is usually one of the following, or a combination, I don't know, I don't put a lot of thought into it lately: muting the thread, spamming porn, tacking people onto the list for the Strangelove bot, saying whatever is likely to bother the largest number of participants in the thread, something like that. Whatever seems like the most fun, time permitting.
So please do not bother me with opinions over who should win. I do not care. I care what does happen, but I have zero hope that I will hear anything related to that from most people here.
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 16:01:43 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@lonelyowl @Darbzilla @DutchBoomerMan @Formerly_Trucks @Nicezilla @Sui (Of course, on bloat, you mute a thread and that thread has been removed from existence forever.) -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 16:01:23 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@Sui @Darbzilla @Nicezilla @DutchBoomerMan @Formerly_Trucks Should play; I killed off all the stuff that was limiting media proxies because it's all now served by Revolver on Frantech VMs. This is done by doing a single redirect, though, so if your server does not follow any redirects, then it won't work. What thing won't play, any errors in the console, etc.? Does this play?
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pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 16:01:13 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@lonelyowl @DutchBoomerMan @Darbzilla @Formerly_Trucks @Nicezilla @Sui Works in Pleroma, including the version on FSE, but with the exception that it still does whatever makes your browser think a tab is active. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 15:47:00 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@unlight I see what you did there. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 01:46:20 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@pernia @kirby @MercurialBuilding @Owl @Owl @beast @sysrq Okay. Please remember to like and subscribe to the rapes and let me know in the comments. -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2023 21:05:10 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@cell @mia :moon: -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2023 21:05:09 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@duponin @cell @mia I saw a quote about it! -
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2023 21:05:08 JST
pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
@cell @duponin @mia It was about the moon!
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