@ArdainianRight @LouisConde @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @nierenstein It often seems to be used as the rw millennial's version of the boomers apocalypse retardation. The way people keep talking about makes it seem that they think that just suddenly the lights just go off all at once and all hell breaks loose.
This doesn't seem to reflect reality. This hasn't happened in Ukraine, which has had many of its power generating facilities destroyed in the war and has managed to work around that keep the lights on to a large extent.
You absolutely can have individual areas loose access to infrastructure for even long periods of time, but to assume it will happen everywhere at once, outside of something like a nuclear war, when there are scores of men who have the ability and desire to maintain these systems for their own well-being seems unrealistic.
The Soviet union collapsed and more than a bit of trouble was had by people in out of the way places to get food and clean water in the aftermath. But to think that all of it just stops working when even in South Africa that isn't the case, without large scale acts against the infrastructure and those who maintain it, seems irrational. Not saying it's totally impossible, but you need make a good case as to how that can happen.
There are many powerful and connected people who will see to it that they don't suffer "total collapse" and many normal people will benefit from it. The whole country can't be cut off from assistance like some mountain town in Bosnia or something.